070 | Microdosing Kanna for Anxiety & Emotional Regulation: A Legal & Safe Empathogen
“So much of a microdosing protocol has to do with taking the time to commit to the process. It’s not so much about the medicine as it is about the container that you’re creating.”
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Let's talk about Kanna! This is a legal, safe and well-researched plant medicine from South Africa. In today's episode, Jenny and I are giving you an introduction to this little succulent, and sharing about our experience microdosing Kanna.
Kanna is a psychedelic-adjacent plant that is psycho-active but classified as an empathogen rather than a psychedelic. Still, there are many benefit to working with it in a similar way we work with psychedelics. It is a heart-opening medicine that invites us to slow down and ease stress.
As the season are changing, we are both experiencing a time of transition, which is the perfect time to do a microdosing protocol. The best part? Kanna is completely legal and accessible within North America. Stay tuned for a future episode where I will be interviewing a Kanna expert for a much deeper dive into this medicine.
Topics Covered:
How to know its time to do a microdosoing protocol
Microdosing to ease transitional periods
Kanna is legal and accessible
Kanna is a heart opening empathogenic
A little intro to Kanna and its indigenous uses
What is Kanna useful for?
Ethical sourcing of Kanna
Our intentions for microdosing with Kanna
Protocol and dose for microdosing Kanna
Creating an intentional microdosing container for building healthy habits
Flow Formula: Our 8 week group microdosing program
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“It’s during those transition periods, usually when the seasons are changing, that I go to microdosing. I’ve been going through some emotional things, and also a career shifts, so it’s a really good time for me to do a protocol.”
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“Kanna is an adaptogen, meaning it’ll adapt to what your body needs. the Kanna was inviting me to experience and feel my exhaustion, to like really listen to how tired I am. That was what my body needed me to hear at the time. ”
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Lana Pribic: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome back to the show. So good to have you here. If you're new, welcome. There's officially now 70 episodes for you to explore, which is so wild. Whew, we've made it far. We're gonna get right into it today. There's no episode intro. I'm here with my dear angel friend. Jenny, welcome back.
You've been here a lot,
Track 1: Thanks for having me. Always a pleasure.
Lana Pribic: You're the most returning guest
Track 1: Oh my
gosh.
Wow. So special.
Lana Pribic: I don't even really consider you a guest. I'm just like, you're more of a co-host. You're a visiting co-host,
Track 1: Yay. Yeah. No, we have a lot of fun.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Yeah. And we are gonna have fun today, so get ready for fun conversation. , this is gonna be a follow-up episode to one that we did about six months ago on our experiences Microdosing, L s D. You guys really liked that one. We really liked it. So we're actually in the middle of our launch for Flow Formula part two or round two.
And yeah we're both [00:01:00] microdosing a new medicine Kanna new to US Medicine Kanna. And since you guys like the last one so much we thought we wanted to just share about our experiences. So yeah, let's do it. Let's start with what . What made you wanna embark on this journey with Kana?
Track 1: Yeah.
yeah. Great question.
So for me, I hadn't tried KANA once or twice before. Somebody gave me a sample at the Denver MAPS conference, but it was. On top of other things, and it wasn't actually in a protocol. And so I've always been called to working with Kana, but it wasn't, I didn't want to rush into it.
I really wanted to make the space and the time for a proper, three to four week protocol. And now is the perfect time. I usually microdose. I mentioned this in the last podcast. Only two or
Three times a year.
Just because we don't have that much research on the long term effects of microdosing.
[00:02:00] And for me, it's during those transition periods, usually when the seasons are changing as well. I've been going through... Some emotional things, and also a career shift. This just seemed like a really good time for me.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. Same. Yeah. I think I mentioned this also last time, like for me, microdosing now, like being a little more experienced with it, I definitely do it only a couple times a year and I find it helps me ease transition periods. The last round that I did with L S D was going from like deep
Plant medicine journeys with iboga and then coming back home and going full swing back into work and launching a program and oh my God, it helped me so much and . With Kana, it's a little bit of the opposite. We're shifting from summer to fall, and for me summer has been so much fun. It's been so high energy, like [00:03:00] sleep and healthy habits have definitely not been a priority for me.
I've just been wanting to have a lot of fun and boy have I been having fun. Um, but you know, we can't ,, we can't live that way forever. And I knew that. So for me, this one is about going from that high summer energy back into kind of slowing down, getting back into the workflow, rebuilding my healthy habits that have fallen to the wayside, which I'm not judging myself for.
Track 1: And I think that's that's essentially what life is. We're never gonna be able to continue our healthy habits every single day or
week or for months on end. And You yeah, we just, we flow in and out of it, and you are aware of what you want to do, and your goals, and how microdosing as a practice, in a framework, as a framework really supports you in getting back to your baseline, or your thriving state,
Lana Pribic: totally. And I think that's . How we both approach her. Like definitely not as a [00:04:00] quick fix, a magic bullet or a bandaid or anything. It's just okay, how can this just support me through whatever it is that I'm going through? And that's why I love it 'cause it's so damn flexible. Like literally from lifting me out of a depression the first time that I microdose psilocybin, to now just being like, alright, maybe it's time to just have some silence in the morning and like how can I just have something to support me. With that, so yeah.
Track 1: in those times where we really want to slow down, and... and figure things out or shift into something new or get back to our routine in the fall time
It seems like there's that shift that happens with the weather and everyone's going back to school or potentially starting something new.
Like we're... And I love that we're just on the same track with microdosing. I think we started our microdosing protocol last time at the same time and now we're doing it again together.
Yeah.
it's been really cool to be able to share that, this experience with you.
Lana Pribic: Yes. Yeah, it's awesome. [00:05:00] And yeah, I know you were the one who actually brought Kanna into my awareness.
And then we had someone in our flow formula program last time work with Kanna and yeah, she just had some sourcing issues and wanted to try something a little more gentle and still experience the benefits of the group coaching and micro dosing program.
And she had an awesome, awesome time. I just wanna highlight for people listening, we're gonna talk a little bit about kana. We're definitely not experts, but I am interviewing an expert. So if you guys have any questions about Kana specifically DM me or shoot me an email and I will ask the expert that's coming on the show in about a month or so.
But okay. The cool thing about kana, so it's not completely a psychedelic, it's more of a psychedelic adjacent product, and it's an empathogen and we'll get into what that means, but the best part is that . It's legal. Yes it is legal and sold as a health supplement in North America, which is amazing.
So for those of you listening out [00:06:00] there who you know, are uncomfortable or are in zones where microdosing psychedelics is not yet decriminalized, this could be a good option for you.
Track 1: Yeah.
And it's, I don't think it's classified.
as a psychedelic, but some people have had psychedelic like experiences.
Lana Pribic: Oh, yeah.
Track 1: but I think that the best part about Kanna is that it is accessible because people reach out all the time asking for ways to source medicine and especially in different parts of outside of North America as well, like in Europe or Australia and this is a great alternative and it acts as a heart opener as well and you can
It can still support you in ways that traditional psychedelics can as well.
Yeah.
Lana Pribic: Yeah, I feel that today,
I needed a lot of gentle heart opening today. 'cause wow, my day was nuts. Maybe I'll tell you guys about that in a second, but just a little bit about kana. So like we said, it's in a pathogenic. So what that means is it enhances feelings of empathy, [00:07:00] emotional relatedness, connection.
Like Jenny said, it's a heart opener. It's not stimulating. But I have found that it's been able to get me into the flow state in a little more of a gentle way. Sometimes it's referred to as nature's M D M A, although that's like definitely an over overstatement because it is much more gentle and yeah, it is from South Africa.
My best friend from childhood , my, my Ronnie Maso sister she's South African, so I've always felt really connected to that energy and especially after Iboga being an African medicine, I've been very curious to explore some medicines from that part of the world. So that really drew me to it.
Track 1: Yeah.
And yeah. Yeah. I think Kana is one that. I've been reading about and it does impact the brain's amygdala so that's like the part of the brain that processes fear and threat, [00:08:00] so this is why it's so good for anxiety and reducing stress and I feel like that for me has been very integral in this process.
I've been noticing that a ton.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Okay. Let's share a little more about Kana and then we're gonna get into the juicy details. We're gonna be keeping all the listeners on the edge of their seats here, .
Track 1: As you mentioned it's native to South Africa, and the parts of the plant that are used are the aerial parts, and it's actually a succulent, so it's so funny to me to think of, when I think of plant medicine, I think of, the vine or roots, like a iboga, or the cactus like wachuma, or peyote, and so then when you think of kanna. And it's this beautiful little succulent that it looks like you could just have it on your coffee table.
Lana Pribic: And it has flower like beautiful flowers.
Track 1: flowers are beautiful, like white flowers on there. And yeah, the kana can be taken in a powder or liquid form. And usually you take it [00:09:00] sublingual, sublingually, I always mess up that word.
Lana Pribic: What does that mean?
Track 1: Under the tongue.
Yeah,
Lana Pribic: Ah, okay.
Track 1: hold it under your tongue for 30 seconds to a minute, I believe. I try to just hang on to mine
Lana Pribic: Oh, like L Ss d
Track 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, and and, side note, you can also... Like for me, I can take my microdose in the morning and drink a cup of coffee because it isn't, doesn't have that super stimulating effect like LSD does.
So that's been like a pro for me. And then a lot of Kana microdoses in North America are also stacked with functional mushrooms and other adaptogens. But what we've been microdosing has been the pure. pure extract
powder form. It's also used as a prescription medicine by some psychiatric doctors in South Africa. And traditionally it was used as a pain reliever [00:10:00] by chewing the plant material directly or like smoking the residue after chewing it. Yeah, like you mentioned It's effects are to open the heart, uplift mood relieve anxiety and stress, a pro as well as that it's non addictive and non toxic, so that is just good overall, like other plant medicines like kratom can be addictive, so you want to be careful with using those. It was also used with indigenous tribes to suppress. their appetite and pain relief and also enhance sensory perception when they're going out and hunting.
. In some cases, patients have responded better to kana than conventional antidepressants, and I'm not going to speak on the whole pharmacology of this, because I'm not an expert, and you just mentioned that you're bringing Ryan on to the podcast, so you guys can deep dive into that, but yeah, I just also want to note that there isn't I haven't [00:11:00] yet enough research on Kanna, so people who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or experiencing chronic health issues should probably avoid Kanna.
It can affect the serotonin levels in the brain, so it's very important that people, if they choose to work with this medicine, that they consult a health practitioner before doing so.
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Lana Pribic: So we just wanna acknowledge the indigenous roots as we're talking about this, and we will definitely dive deeper with that, with Ryan.
Kana has roots with several indigenous communities in South Africa and Namibia. So the San people, the Koi and the NAMA people, and um, you know, for them they're not, they're not, Merely treating Kana as a plant.
It's an embodiment of their deep-rooted connection with the environment. And this is something that we're gonna be covering more deeply with Ryan from Kanna Extract Co, who makes visits over to South Africa. So he has much more to share about that with us. But currently research is being conducted on [00:12:00] the plant's, bioactive compounds with an emphasis on antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, antidepressant, and lytic effects. Do you wanna touch just a little bit about what we found around sustainability? And again, we're gonna dive much more deeply into this with Ryan, but we do just wanna do our due diligence and touch on everything here.
Track 1: Yeah, sure. So I think like the best resource I found on this was from Double Blind and an article written by Daniel Simone Brand. And she writes, Though once abundant, Kana was nearly over harvested to extinction in its native habitat. While wild sourcing remains unsustainable today, cultivators in South Africa, South African Kana industry grow hectares worth of the plant. for domestic and international use. And for the South African government, a portion of Kana cultivation profits go to support native communities. While USDA organic designation [00:13:00] isn't available, Kana is a succulent well adapted to the southern African continent that thrives in sandy soil without the need for fertilizers and pesticides, which I think is really neat.
Lana Pribic: Yeah, so definitely if you guys are sourcing kana, check that it's being ethically sourced the sponsor of the episode today and partner of modern psychedelics, O Kana X extra co. They're ethically sourcing their product. They're working with growers who uphold benefit sharing agreement with traditional wisdom keepers.
And yeah we really like that. And again, we'll talk much more deeply about that in a future episode with Ryan. So let's get into our protocol and our experiences. So yeah, what was your intention for engaging with kana?
Track 1: Yes, I mentioned previously I was hoping to support, be supported through this emotional time and working through some anxiety as well as I [00:14:00] want to stay focused up leveling my skills while I transition my career path. I'm starting to do some
Volunteering.
and I applied for a grant to take some indigenous courses. And I'm also in between roles right now. So it's just been, like, very full on and... I knew that Kanna helped reduce stress levels, and it's actually been working really beautifully for me in this time. As well I suffer from cycle pain every month, and I talked a little bit about this on the LSD podcast, but I was like maybe Kana could help with pain reduction as well.
And so I started microdosing it three weeks ago. And I actually lined it up. So I had microdosing the stamens protocol. So five on and then two off. And so I did five days right [00:15:00] before my period. And usually I'm About a level 9, 10, 11 sometimes with pain.
And this was like a 2 or 3 and I was just
Lana Pribic: Wow.
Track 1: Holy crap. Wow. Yeah, it was pretty transformational in that sense. Definitely gonna keep this one in my tool belt.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. The cool thing about it is that like it can be used as a supplement. So maybe do some research on that, but it sounds like you can probably use it as a supplement during that time of month.
Track 1: Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And, pulling in other herbs and that can also be beneficial, like raspberry leaf tea.
Track 1: so just playing with that and experimenting some
more. But if that can help
me it can also help so many other women who are struggling every single month.
We've got
Lana Pribic: Yeah I'm definitely one of those as well. I'm gonna share about my gut healing journey in a future episode ayahuasca integration, but man, yeah, it's amazing. Like the [00:16:00] raspberry leaf in infusions it's crazy that nature just has these remedies for us. Like Yeah it's, it's awesome.
Track 1: Yeah. totally. And then, How about you? Like why
were you interested in microdosing
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Yeah. Like I mentioned, I'm just like very drawn to exploring African energy medicines and just exploring my connection to that, but, Yeah, like I said, for me it's really been about slowing the F down and I actually had a really simple intention with this protocol and that was just to bring back my morning routines and I.
Honestly, I'm not even that much of a morning routine person because I feel like really solid and good at this point in my life that I don't need to like lean on morning rituals and routines so much. However um, simply having some sort of routine, like as simple as like, [00:17:00] okay, making my bed and then having my coffee and then like reading while I have my coffee and then maybe just sitting in silence for five minutes, like I'm keeping it that freaking simple.
I'm using this protocol to really just get back to that and. A little hack that I've discovered, which I think is aligned with Atomic Habits, how he talks about like, make it Easy. I've honestly been just like, I love the microdosing protocol because it just creates like an intentional container where you're like, okay, I'm committing to this, I'm doing this.
Every night before Bed , I haven't been doing this in the summer because I've just been like, . Oh, I'm just gotta stay up and chill and hang out and chat with friends and do what I feel like doing. 'cause it's summer and I've become such a night owl this summer. Completely new for me. . Anyways, what I discovered this like habit hack was, is the night before, and I've been doing this during my con of microdosing protocol.
I'll take 10 to 15 minutes and literally set out [00:18:00] every single thing that I intend to do in the morning. So like I'll set out my little meditation cushion cushion in front of Myar. So that it's there, I'll have my mug for coffee and like my arrow press ready. I'll have like my Kanna ready and my supplements ready.
I'll have like my water bottle ready with the electrolytes. Like literally everything is just ready for me to go so that I don't even have to think about it. And that for me has been really supportive and just getting back into a ritual, preparing for the day. I think I might even start choosing my like wardrobe out for the next day.
And just having those smooth mornings to ease me into the workday. 'cause let's face it, Things have been a little flippy floppy lately. lately, you know, I'm getting it all done, but it's only like for so long that I can keep up this momentum of not having a routine. So yeah, for me, I'm just keeping it really simple.
And you know what it's been, I think because it is that like em pathogenic medicine [00:19:00] on days like today where I set my alarm for seven and I woke up at eight. Because I'm recovering from a music festival and I clearly needed the sleep and I never sleep through my alarms. I got a little stressed when I woke up.
I had a client call at eight 30 and I was like, shit. And I had the microdose and it was like call after call. And I kind of just like flowed and eased through the stress. And I, I, I, I think that's the Kanna
Track 1: It's so awesome.
And I love that you, you're like saying that you kept things simple, but the amount of things that you've stacked, like the habits you've stacked on top of each other, but the ease in which you're doing it has made it seem very simple. I think that's really neat and beautiful.
That sense, yeah.
Lana Pribic: yeah. And I don't like, I don't think we have to overcomplicate things. Even with a microdosing protocol like it, we can keep it really simple. If that's what we need, [00:20:00] so
Track 1: yeah, for sure. I like to keep my microdose actually at my desk. Which sounds funny. Because then I can do my journaling and whatnot before. I keep my journal right by my bed. And then it's the first thing I grab instead of my phone. I just grab my journal
Lana Pribic: yeah.
Track 1: then do the microdosing. Go to my desk set my intention. And then I can just dive right in. And
it's there as a reminder, right? Because... A lot of people will say, oh, I keep slipping out of my microdosing protocol. And it's where are you keeping your medicine? And they're like, in the cupboard, like behind my tea. It's Are you making
a tea every morning?
no
Then you're not going to be able to see it and
stack it. Always making it easy, and you've done that. I can't believe, yeah, the setting out your wardrobe, I think, is next level. Like,
Lana Pribic: The missing piece. . Well, Just like mornings are so hard, but they have such an impact on our day, right? So I think like the easier that we can make them . Like the less decisions we have to make in the morning. Like, and, And [00:21:00] it's that piece of intentionality where like before I go to bed that night, I, by going through the motions and setting everything out, I'm already committing to myself to have the morning that I want.
I.
Track 1: Exactly. Yeah.
Lana Pribic: I'm keeping it super simple. So you can use this if you're a person who I used to be like a person that was like, I need two to three hours in the morning to just be silent and read and journal and stretch. Like even if you're like that kind of person, I think you can use that trick and bring it into your microdosing routine.
And your journal has been so helpful for, especially just I remember . I was like, I wanted to do the microdosing protocol, but I wasn't like feeling it. And I went through like the first section of your journal and then I was like, yes. I'm like so excited about this and it got me pumped and it like really invited me to reflect and really think about how I wanted this experience to be.
Track 1: that's awesome. I'm so glad [00:22:00] it helped you. And a lot of people think that when they open the journal, they're going to have to dedicate, 20 or 30 minutes in the morning to journal. And honestly, like the AM check in takes two minutes if you want
it to, and same with the PM check in. I always say with the journal, you do whatever works for you, so if there's, instead of reflecting on your weekly intention, you can cross that out and put your top three
Goals for the day.
Or Just do both the check ins at night It's really,
your tool to make yours.
Lana Pribic: yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Do you wanna talk a little bit about the protocol that we like the actual logis logistics of how we've been doing it? Yeah.
Track 1: so I've been microdosing 50 milligrams under the tongue. Every morning. Sometimes I'll microdose around 11 o'clock or noon. Have you been doing the same amount as me?
Lana Pribic: Yeah. 50 milligrams. Yeah. Of the extract. And it's nice 'cause [00:23:00] they provide you with a little measured spoon and it's really easy to dose. Put it, I put it in my coffee, but I should. . Probably start putting it under my, under my
Track 1: it in your coffee.
Lana Pribic: just mush it all together.
Track 1: Yeah, the only thing about the extract is, yeah if you're expecting it to taste nice, it's pure, right? So it's, it doesn't taste
Lana Pribic: I've tasted worse.
Track 1: yeah. Do you taste it in your coffee?
Lana Pribic: No, not in my coffee, but I have put it on my tongue. I mean, It's all that bad. Do you think it's that bad?
Track 1: No, I don't think it's that bad.
It's it's
Lana Pribic: good medicine is bitter. Elizabeth Ba
Track 1: Quote.
Lana Pribic: Yeah,
Track 1: yeah, so we're both doing the stamens
protocol five days on, two days off.
Lana Pribic: Which I've never done before, have you? I've always done the two days on. One day off
Track 1: I have done the stamens stack like with the proper niacin and everything as well with psilocybin mushrooms. And then I make, I was making my own capsules. [00:24:00] So I've done that once or twice before. But yeah the. That's what most resources online are saying for Kana, it's just best to do five and two.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. So that's been nice. And it's nice 'cause for me, my intentions around that work week flow. So it's been working really nicely for me. Yeah, and it's been really nice to share this experience together and to keep each other posted.
Track 1: Yeah, I
Lana Pribic: remind each other to take our dose
Track 1: Yeah. And I think it was so funny when we both were like, trying to plan our marketing for the flow formula, and we're both like such low energy, and then it ended up coming out that we're both like, on the exact, at the exact same time in our cycle.
Lana Pribic: Yeah, we got our period on the exact same day. . Yeah.
Track 1: Yeah.
I think that, that is, That's so important when microdosing, like having somebody that you can have as an accountability buddy
Great and makes it [00:25:00] more fun too, you can compare because when we first started, you were like, Oh my gosh, I feel like the Kana is like adapting too. my mood, and I feel really lethargic and tired right
now. And then I was like, I'm the opposite. I'm getting so
much shit done. I've applied to 10 jobs. So yeah, it's just like funny that our experiences were so different at the beginning.
Lana Pribic: Yeah, that's what I wanted to talk about next. What's different about Kanna for you versus the mushroom or L S D experience, because yeah, I heard Phoebe McPherson talk on another podcast about how it is an adaptogens, so it'll adapt to what your body needs. And Yeah, like you said, on the first few days I was just coming out of like hardcore summer energy of like partying and like late nights.
I was just like, holy fuck, I'm exhausted. I'm so tired. And it was like the Kanna was just like inviting me to experience and feel my exhaustion [00:26:00] to experience and feel how tired I am and to like really listen . So I feel like that's, that was what my body needed me to hear at the time. What about you?
What's been different for you?
Track 1: Yeah, for sure. I think I've been able to just stay super focused and stay get into that flow state when I'm working. I can tell that those states are being extended for sure. And I'm just,
Even though I'm having these, this emotional stress right now and it's been like intense at times. I do feel like when I put my head down and I'm like, okay, I have these goals that I'm. I'm flying through my work, which feels
really good. And I think with the mushrooms, it is a bit more difficult to in general for most people to get the dosage right, because we talk about intuitive dosing and finding that sweet spot. It's easy to, I think, overdose yourself with mushrooms [00:27:00] sometimes when you're just starting. And then I think with Kana I don't, because it's so gentle, I don't think that is as much of an issue. Plus, you're working with a pure... We're working with a pure extract, and we know exactly how much is in this, whereas
there's so many different types of strains, there's so many different ways to store mushrooms, if you're making your own capsules, like having an even balance of the mixture together, there's all these other variables,
whereas this is just pure, got the measuring scoop it's simple, and even if you take more, I don't think that change will be as what do you call it? What's the word I'm looking for?
Lana Pribic: Noticeable.
Track 1: as noticeable. Yeah, exactly.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Yeah. I think there was one day where I took like almost three scoops instead of the two, so like probably almost 75 milligrams and. I felt like so euphoric, but while I was in the flow state, it was like, I was like really [00:28:00] enjoying it and I was like, wow, this is nice. I'm like really enjoying this administrative task that I'm doing.
Track 1: Spreadsheets.
Lana Pribic: Oh my god, you guys, being a freaking online entrepreneur has so much damn admin work and I think . It's also really interesting that we are doing this at the same time while we're at such different spots in our entrepreneurial journeys. 'cause you're you just left one job and you're shifting into another one, right?
Whereas I am finally starting to see all of my hard work from the past three years pay off and like I'm finally starting to see momentum. So yeah, I feel like maybe . The kana, it sounds like the KANA is supporting both of us with where we're at with our businesses.
Track 1: Yeah. Yeah.
for sure. Yeah. And
I think I've, I mentioned before, like being a freelancer for so long now, I think I'm like [00:29:00] three years of consulting and contracting. It takes a lot of energy to shift your mindset from okay, I gotta write for this type of audience and then put that aside, yeah, and task shift into the next one,
Lana Pribic: Don't talk about taxes.
Track 1: Yeah, and so I just think, I think microdosing helps so much in that for me
Lana Pribic: Yeah.
Track 1: And then, yeah, switching to the
business mindset, switching to job searching, like, all of it, it's
just that, makes that transition a lot smoother.
Lana Pribic: Oh my gosh. You know what else I've noticed with Kana? Microdosing? I'm curious if you're experiencing this. I've been sleeping so well. Like I've been having such deep sleeps. It's been amazing.
Track 1: Yeah,
Lana Pribic: like feeling so refreshed after I wake up in the morning. Ugh. So good.
Track 1: yeah, I've noticed that my aura ring scores are definitely, have been definitely better the last three weeks.
Lana Pribic: I wonder if that's the adaptogenic quality. I'll have to ask [00:30:00] Ryan about that. But yeah, even yeah, I just got back from Harvest, which was like three full days of partying and dancing and high energy, joy and bliss shenanigans, . Shenanigans,
Track 1: Such a fun
Lana Pribic: And um, yeah, after I got back, I noticed that I felt the best that I've ever felt after like three days of sending it.
And then that first sleep, I slept 12 hours and I think I slept throughout the whole night and I was back on my kind of microdosing. That day. So who knows? I'm just sharing observations, but who knows?
Track 1: Yeah, man, it's all experimental,
experiential, right?
Lana Pribic: Experiential. Yeah. If you guys are out there microdosing, send us your experiences. We want to know
Track 1: Yeah, I want to hear more I, there's not as many people [00:31:00] talking about
Lana Pribic: Well Actually,
Someone just messaged me on my community and I'll just share this anonymously. She said that she started . She ordered the kana after my original story and she loves it so much and I was like, what are you noticing? The days that I use it, I just feel overall so much happier and have more fun.
It helps me connect socially in a more, more wholehearted way. I noticed it quits, quiets my anxiety and feelings of dread. I really like to microdose and do half of the recommended amount. It feels like a warm hug. . I'll ask her before I share this. Like If I, if she's not okay with it, I'll edit it out, but yeah.
So there's one little testimonial. It does kind of feel like a warm hug, doesn't it?
Track 1: It's a nice warm hug, but
it's like also, it's an energizing warm hug. It's not
like a sleepy one, for
Lana Pribic: like a motivational, warm hug. . Yeah.
Track 1: the best friend that [00:32:00] is encouraging you to keep going on a day that is rainy and a little cloudy.
Lana Pribic: No. Yeah, that's honestly what it is. 'cause I wrote here in our notes like the empathy ability to get things done. Even when stress, like I had a few days like that leading up to packing and getting ready for harvest and like managing a full schedule. It was just like, okay, just gotta take a moment to breathe.
I'm like, okay, I can do this. I can do all this. I can make it through. And that just felt a lot. It's smoother for me.
Track 1: that's awesome,
that's so great.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Anything else that you wanna touch on that you've been noticing about your experience?
Track 1: I think we covered everything.
Lana Pribic: Cool,
Track 1: Yeah.
Lana Pribic: cool. Yeah, I think like .. One thing that I just wanna share is and this is just a microdosing protocol in general for me, it doesn't have to be kana, but I think so much of it has to do with just like taking the time to commit to the process. And it's not even so much about the medicine as it is about the container that you're [00:33:00] creating.
And making that commitment to yourself. So like, okay, for four, eight, you know, 12 weeks I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna commit to this and these are my intentions. And I really think that's the power in it. And if Kanna's the medicine for you at this time, that's it. If you know it's mushrooms, that's it.
But I really do wanna emphasize like the power of the container and the intentionality. I really think that's where the power is.
Track 1: I totally agree.
It's all about that, creating that container and the juices in the journey, right?
Lana Pribic: I love that you've adapted that as your own. I love it so much.
Track 1: it's so great.
Lana Pribic: I love it. Yeah, which actually leads perfectly into talking about flow formula because that is a container that we've created to. Take people through the journey of microdosing and I think you did such an awesome job today during our clubhouse talking about our program.[00:34:00]
Do you wanna tell people again? 'cause you did awesome.
Track 1: Sure, I can do that. Flow Formula is an 8 week microdosing program centered around finding flow in life. So we talk a lot about the flow state and how we can enter that on, a daily basis, but it's also bringing in your teachings on the seven levels of energy to actually flow with life.
And I liked the way that you explained that today on the clubhouse earlier where you were like, We teach you this kind of framework so that you can go and use these tools and these practices and your flow formula playbook so that you don't actually need to reach for the medicine all the time. This is what we've created and we're inviting you to come into this container experiment, find what works for you, and then You know, use that whenever you want.
You don't need to just use this in a microdosing protocol. You [00:35:00] can utilize all
of these tools and practices whenever. Yeah, so we have nine classes and they're on Wednesdays at Did we say 12 p. m. PST? Yeah.
We have some incredible instructors, facilitators coming in. We have Laura Dawn, who's an expert in psychedelic leadership and creativity.
Lana Pribic: She was a crowd favorite in the first cohort,
Track 1: oh yeah.
Lana Pribic: so we had to bring her back.
Track 1: Phenomenal. And then we have Adam Lewis from Othership who's going to be teaching on the nervous system and
regulation and walking us through a breathwork session, which is also another favorite. People were just like raving about that. I love the
Lana Pribic: Yeah. People really discovered breath work during that.
Track 1: yeah,
Lana Pribic: Yeah.
Track 1: I've
downloaded the app. I'm a believer. Yeah. And then lastly, we have Mareesa Stertz who walks us through uncovering our story and she does [00:36:00] this kind of workshop where you outline the highs and lows of your life and how that's brought you to where you are and I really like just the way that she teaches this and seeing it visually on a piece of paper has been like very powerful for me to then like Know where my stories are coming from and then helps me rewrite my story for the future and Yeah, and then this is a community program So,
we are coming in here and we have accountability groups. We have breakout rooms after each session and we're Just like students in the program as well. We're, yes, we're experts on some specific things, like Lana's a three time certified IPEC coach, and I'm a registered holistic nutritionist, but we bring in other people to teach on the topics, and then at the end of each program, or sorry, each module we have a [00:37:00] workbook that the participants can fill out, and That is something that really helps people uncover what works for them. So
what works, what my unique flow formula is not going to be the same as yours, right?
And so at the end of this, we put all these, we mash up all these workbooks together for each participant and then they walk out of this with
their own unique playbook that is something they can constantly reach to and really works for them in their life.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. We want you to do you boo
Track 1: Totally.
Totally. And Yeah. it's just, it's been like also so fun, like playing around, we have a discord
channel and we have a trusted sourcing guide from all these different microdosing brands
On where you are in the world.
And yeah, lots of bonus extra material. You also
get a intention journal with the program so you can
have that
Lana Pribic: Mail to your doorstep, guys. It's the real deal.[00:38:00]
Track 1: Did I miss anything?
Lana Pribic: Yeah. I think that covered a lot. I would just say like in a nutshell, it's like a life coaching meets. Wellness program that's supported by microdosing and it's all about finding flow in life. And man, it has been so incredible to see where some of the past participants are and just like how sharing some of these very simple energy transformation tools have played a role in getting them
What they want in life. And honestly, a lot of the time that is things like inner peace and stillness and acceptance and from there is where we can really create anything. So yeah, it's just such a joy and an honor and so much fun to, to teach in this program.
Track 1: Yeah, it's been an [00:39:00] amazing journey and I'm so happy that I'm doing it with you.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. .
Track 1: Do we want to talk?
about who the program's for maybe?
Lana Pribic: yeah, for sure. So this is for, you know, it doesn't really matter how, but if you're feeling stuck in any way, 'cause we're gonna be moving a lot of energy. You're gonna be learning to transform your e energy. You're gonna be learning to consciously choose your energy. And this is gonna be in a really tangible.
Way. It's not fluffy. It's not fluffy. Like my scarf. Okay. It is tangible. A
Track 1: Also for people listening Lana
is wearing a
Lana Pribic: The coolest.
Track 1: and neon.
Lana Pribic: it is,
Track 1: looks like a little creature. It's
got
Lana Pribic: it, is a creature. I need to, oh, I'm gonna name him. I'm gonna name him Georgia. 'cause my friend Georgia made him for me and he reminds me of the trees, an avatar.
Track 1: I have a plant named
Georgia.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. . I love you, Georgia, if you're listening, . Yeah. So yeah, , I had to give a little [00:40:00] shout out to my scarf.
Yeah, it's not fluffy. It is super tangible and actionable and operational. So, you know, Signs of feeling stuck are like, are you experiencing boredom? Are you confused and lacking clarity? And even if you wanna take a step forward, you don't know how are you feeling? Some . Layers of resentment or anger that are lingering, that shit keeps you stuck.
Are you stuck in fear? Are you doubting yourself? If that's you, this might be the program for you. We're gonna give you lots of tools to work through that shit .
You're gonna learn how to use Microdosing as a powerful tool for growth, for momentum, and also for presence. 'cause at the end of the day, flow. . Is presence if we really boil it down. This program is for people who wanna dip their feet into the world of psychedelics within a supportive community. But also, if you're in this world too, and you haven't experienced the power, power of a group container, we would love to have you if you're going through [00:41:00] a period of growth.
But you don't know how to be true to yourself in this crazy world. A huge part of my process as a life coach is authenticity and being you. 'cause the world needs you to be you. Because you're here. Okay. If the world didn't need you to be you wouldn't be here as you. So yeah, we're gonna talk about that.
If you're in resistance integrating the new you or the real you, the authentic you after maybe period, oh my gosh. If you've been going through a period of doing a lot of plant medicine work and transformational work, and you're like, integrating this program would be great for you. And then
you're someone who's just it's fine. That settling, tolerating energy of it's fine, it could be better. Yeah. We're gonna, we're gonna share this information and these energy transformation tools for you to use for the rest of your life so that you're not settling anymore and, oh, I'm so passionate about it.
Yes. This is the shit that has changed my life, honestly.
Track 1: [00:42:00] Yeah even just working with you the last year has friggin changed my life, so
Lana Pribic: Ah,
Track 1: it's
awesome.
Lana Pribic: Same.
Track 1: Okay.
so early bird pricing ended already on September 26th, but we love
you. So
Lana Pribic: you so much. So much. It's not even funny.
Track 1: yeah so because we
love you so much, we are
offering a discount code to get the early bird pricing. And so that means you'll save 300. You can use the discount code. Let's do, no fluff,
Lana Pribic: no fluff.
Track 1: N O F L U F,
Lana Pribic: No fluff. No fluff.
Track 1: Yeah, so if you enter that, you'll get 300 off of the Program price and then we do have some payment plans available as well. And we're also offering a few partial scholarships For people who require financial aid. So just
email us to inquire about that.
Lana Pribic: [00:43:00] yeah. It's Flow formula course@gmail.com and we'll leave at that in the show notes. And it was really beautiful to offer these financial scholarships for people last round. And, people were so grateful and like they really showed up and they did the work as if they paid full price.
So yeah, it's our way of also giving back and making sure people are included.
Track 1: Yeah.
Yeah, and on that note also say if you are a If you're thinking, I don't know if this program is right for me, or I have some questions,
we're offering free alignment calls because we want to ensure that this program is right for you and we don't just want to take your money. We want you to
be Sure. That you're in the right headspace and
place and time for this program.
So yeah.
we'll drop the link in the show notes to book a call with us and yeah, and then we
Lana Pribic: Yeah.
Track 1: a nice chat.
Lana Pribic: Yeah, we did that last round too, and I'm so happy that we took like, yeah, it was like a lot of our time to get on a call with [00:44:00] everyone, but I think that it really filtered the group and everyone who joined just got so much out of it. So it, it was definitely worth it. So yeah, if you're thinking about it, we would love to connect with you.
Track 1: Everyone was so friggin awesome.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. We have some testimonials on the website. You guys can check out.
Track 1: Yeah.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Ooh, so exciting. Alright anything you wanna share with people before we finish off you?
Track 1: No,
I don't.
think so. I think we covered it all. But yeah. Again, so stoked to be involved in your creative project. And thank you again for having me. This is so fun to work together.
Lana Pribic: Oh my God, I love you so much.
Track 1: I love you so much.
Lana Pribic: Oh.
Track 1: people are just probably our friendship, we're just, we're ridiculous.
Lana Pribic: Yeah, we are . I love it. 'cause we just accept each other's multidimensionality and it just so happens that our multidimensional selves like just are the [00:45:00] same, like we're both into the same weird shit. So it works.
Track 1: boogie together themselves. They boogie hard.
Lana Pribic: Yeah we boogie hard and we pray hard.
Track 1: Love that.
Lana Pribic: Yeah,
Track 1: Cool.
Lana Pribic: All right, guys. Thanks so much for listening. I hope that you enjoyed this completely unfiltered episode.
no fluff. No fluff. No fluff.
Track 1: Cut the
Lana Pribic: right, guys.
Track 1: except if you're wearing it around your neck.
Lana Pribic: Yeah, . Yeah, if you enjoy this episode, drop me a line. I'd love to hear you back from you guys. I absolutely love to just hear from you and know people are listening. Leave a review, reach out, book a call with us and keep doing your thing. Keep doing your thing.
Lots of love. Bye
