133 | Nine Months After Iboga: Life if the Integration Plan
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Released on my 35th birthday, this episode is a cozy conversation between me and one of my closest friends about iboga integration. We discuss what life has been like in the nine months since I had a shocking Iboga experience. One that allowed me to access the source of deepest shame within myself, after six years of working with psychedelic medicine. Since then, I have been given the opportunity to transform my relationship with that shame. This is a cozy story time style episode where I reflect on everything I have been learning, integrating, releasing and opening up to, after iboga at etereo. I definitely haven't "figured it all out", and I am in still in process. This is a glimpse into it the inner work that helped me befriend my shadowiest shadow.
Topics Covered:
What Iboga reveals about self-deception, truth, and identity
The shock and grief phase of post-Iboga integration
Why integration often feels harder before it feels lighter
Slow healing vs. making healing your whole personality
Anxiety, thought spirals, and learning not to act from them
Releasing control, oversharing, and curated self-image
Cultural shame, father wounds, and returning to the Balkans
Creativity as integration (photography, fashion, expression)
Entering a secure romantic relationship after years of singleness
Anxious attachment, earned security, and emotional regulation
Living long-distance as part of the medicine’s curriculum
Why “life is the integration plan”
Stepping away from facilitation and the savior role
Choosing to enjoy life without abandoning depth or devotion
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Lana Pribic, M.Sc., is an ICF Professional Coach, co-founder of Kanna Wellness, and producer & host of the Modern Psychedelics Podcast. With over 230 hours of professional training and four coaching certifications, Lana specializes in psychedelically-informed coaching, guiding individuals through profound inner transformation. Based in Ontario, she merges the power of psychedelics, consciousness, and self-discovery to facilitate deeply impactful experiences. When she's not immersed in her work, you'll likely find her dancing to electronic beats, creating art in the kitchen, practicing patience with her cat, curating her dream wardrobe, or diving into a book.
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Lana Pribic: it's really important to know yourself truthfully, because you are experiencing the world, which includes, your outer world, your relationships. Your ambitions, everything. It's all filtered through your own self perception of yourself and the world. If I can see myself more truthfully, I can see the world more truthfully, and I can show up more truthfully and hopefully contribute to a more truthful. world For me, everything that's felt out of alignment,, like everything that's felt like there's resistance, stuckness, just heavy energy. It's been because I haven't been able to see myself in a truthful way. And because I've been, telling lies to myself,
Lana Pribic: Okay, everyone. Hello and welcome to the [00:01:00] Modern Psychedelics podcast. Today is a special day, not only because this episode is finally being released , but today also happens to be my 35th birthday, and so I'm recording this on January 23rd, and the episode will also be going live today.
So it feels just. Just right and special that it turned out that way. But yeah, today's episode is a integration update. An update on what the last nine months have looked like for me since Iboga, since my second journey with Iboga. And so if you haven't heard the first episode where I actually shared about.
The ceremony. What it was like at the retreat. That is episode 1 22, and that was recorded a month after the Evogue experience. I [00:02:00] was quite shaken. It was very emotional. Um, but that recounts the journey, what it was like for me. And then the other episode that is a part of this series in this collaboration with Atrio is episode 1 29, which is an interview with Paige West.
And so I did Iboga at Atrio in Baja, Mexico with Paige . And yeah, just so grateful for them and their continued support up to this day. Um, yeah, it was an amazing experience. It was really challenging. And today we are talking about the integration, the messiness of it, the ups and downs, and really how I went from shock and shame to acceptance and love and, you know.
As you listen to this episode, you will see that a lot has changed, um, and the changes aren't dramatic, but they are [00:03:00] subtle and they are there. And so I hope you enjoy the listen for anyone who is considering sitting with this medicine, um, or who is in their own integration journey. It's a good one, and so I actually recorded this for the first time in November, and as I was re-listening to it, I absolutely hated it.
It felt just so scripted and it just didn't feel right. For this episode, I wanted it to be raw. And more in the moment. And so I actually decided to ask one of my best friends, Kev, to come on and host this episode and interview me. And I think that that helped a lot. I'm really happy with how it turned out.
And so thank you Kev, for coming on and supporting in this way. One thing that I didn't talk about in the episode that I do wanna touch on in this intro is that I didn't talk about how. I mean, I did say that this is never ending work and that I'm still very much in [00:04:00] it. But specifically I do wanna say that there's days and weeks where I am still processing, uh, accepting, understanding, making sense of, um, some of the content that came up for me during this Evo a experience.
And, you know, there's, there's ups and downs. The important thing is that I'm moving through them, I'm navigating them, and I'm staying present through them, and I'm having to face, you know, it's, it's, it's a no coincidence that today's my 35th birthday. It feels like a significant one. And you know, right now after this Iboga experience and just like where I'm at in my life right now, I'm having to face some really tough decisions and questions about my life and what I want for myself. And it's not easy and it's definitely all consuming and.
I do understand though, that I have [00:05:00] to live out the answers in addition to finding them within myself. So I'm really doing my best to trust life, and I definitely don't want to position myself as someone who has it all figured out, who is perfect in any way whatsoever. I, I, I just really wanna highlight that this episode and the series that I, that I've been doing in collaboration with Atrio, um.
I, I hope that what's very clear here is that this is just a glimpse into the process. There's no pretty little bow that is being tied here. The integration process is very ongoing, and it's more about the relationship that I'm developing with not just myself, but with life.
And so, yeah, I just wanted to say that before you dive in. And like I said, the place where I had this experience was Atrio.
You can find [00:06:00] them@atriobaja.mx slash iboga, so that's E-T-R-E-O, BJ A DO mx slash iboga. So you can find their work there. I can't recommend Paige and her team, more. They're really, really wonderful and. Expert at this work. So yeah, if you're looking for a really great iboga retreat, they're a good one.
And then the other thing I do want to share with you is that I have an iboga preparation and integration program that I have been working on, um, since, since I got home from the AT retreat actually. And. There is nothing quite like it out there. It's a coaching program for both prep and integration meant to support the full arc of your journey.
And it's a combination of coursework, [00:07:00] coaching prompts, and then also one-on-one time with me. So if you're considering working with Iboga this year in 2026, or you are preparing. To work with Iboga or even in your integration phase, you know, having support is definitely recommended. , The only caveat there is that I only work with folks who are in the psycho-spiritual stream, I'm not dealing with, uh, substance use and addiction and things like that.
So if you are out there and looking for support, check out the program. It's called doing the work with the oga. You can find it@modernpsychedelics.net. I'll leave that link, link down below, but take a look. If you're interested, you can book an intro call with me and we can explore what, uh, enrolling my support would look like.
So that's atrio, baja.mx for atrio, and then modern psychedelics.net for my program. And so without a further [00:08:00] ado, let's get into this episode. And thank you so much for listening and you know, in a little way, celebrating my birthday with me this year.
Lana Pribic: Hello everyone. I am here with my very good friend, Kev, who has appeared on the show several times at this point.
Kev G: Exactly several.
Lana Pribic: And yeah, I asked Kev to guest host today to help me tell the story of what the last nine months of my Iboga integration journey have been like, because I just wanted it to feel more raw, unscripted, and authentic.
So I thought an interview would be the way to do that. So kept thanks so much for coming on. I'm gonna hand it over to you, and you're very, very capable hosting hands.
Kev G: Yay. Thanks Lana. Uh, hello everyone. This is Lana and, uh, we're gonna talk about your integration journey, uh, post. [00:09:00] Most recent Iboga, also journey.
Lana Pribic: Mm-hmm.
Kev G: so why don't we start at the start, which is nine months ago, did you do and where did you do it?
Lana Pribic: So nine months ago, yeah, so it was like end of April, early May. I went to Baja Mexico to uh, center called Etereo to sit with Iboga, or lay down with Iboga, 'cause you're, you're laid out flat. Um, yeah. So that happened and that was actually my second time with Iboga.
This medicine, the first time was two and a half years ago. It was very much a continuation of the first journey. And yeah, I shared all about the actual experience in another episode, which we can link down, uh, below. But yeah, this was like a pretty deep excavation that I was ready for at that time. Yeah.
Kev G: [00:10:00] Nice. So you went deep, you excavated, and then, uh, I'm so curious like what your journey has been since then. 'cause you're obviously, uh, experienced with integrating, but I imagine that the content of set integration, uh, changes and I also maybe the like, uh, the experience of integration, like how, what was the kind of structure and like flow in the last nine months and like, did you plan for it or did you kinda feel your way through it and and adapt as he went?
Lana Pribic: very much felt my way through it and adapted as I went. I think when I first started working with psychedelics and talking about thinking about doing integration, I very much thought of it as something that we kind of. We do, and it is something that we do, and integration is so, so many things. [00:11:00] Um, but you know, what I've really been noticing about integration this last year in 2025, is that it's really about like, how I live my life and how I show up for my life in, in every moment.
And so I think like years ago it was about like, well, I need to make sure that I'm like journaling and, and meditating and, um, all the self-care stuff. And those things are a part of it. Yes. But I've been approaching integration more as a daily opportunity and a moment to moment opportunity. And especially with a medicine like Iboga, which people tend to have an ongoing living relationship with.
Like it's, it's still with you after the ceremony. Um, it's more about, uh, it, it's very much been about high level. Recognizing and noticing my internal state, my thoughts, my [00:12:00] reactions, um, the, the stories that I tell myself, my emotional state, the way that things impact me. Uh, it's been about noticing that, bringing awareness to that.
And trust me, iboga, you can't escape your mind or yourself after something like Iboga because the, the relationship that you have with yourself after is so different. You, you, you really can't escape yourself. And that's really initiated with, with the medicine. So it's been really about noticing my internal state and choosing how I wanna go forward.
And so there's not too much like structure or planning around that. It's just going with the flow of what happens in life and treating everything as an opportunity to, you know, show up in the way that I want to show up and also catch myself in those stories, um, and choose differently in that moment.
Kev G: That's, yeah, I, I personally love hearing that 'cause it kind of takes [00:13:00] away the idea that integration post anything is this like full time stop life and like work through things in, in priority order until it's all complete and then you get back to life. It's more about kind of, yeah, like you're saying, doing things on the fly, but listening to yourself and working with those insights.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. It's, it's kind of like about learning to live in a different way.
Kev G: hmm.
Lana Pribic: Yeah.
Kev G: Love that. Uh, what was the. Were there phases to this journey? And, and if so, like what, what were they? Like where did you, what was like the first phase post experience?
Lana Pribic: Yeah, the first phase, like immediately upon coming home from Baja was complete and utter shock. Like I was in a,[00:14:00]
it was the most challenging part of the nine months right after because I was in such a state of, uh, shock, uh, disbelief. Uh, I was seeing the delusion that I was living under for 34 years of my life and having to like confront that, uh, grieve certain things, like grieve who I thought I was or who I desperately wanted to be, or who the world desperately wanted me to be.
But then iboga showing me that I wasn't that. So there was, there was grief. Um, I honestly just kept to myself a lot. Like I spent a lot of time in my bed. Journaling. I would sometimes just spend time watching YouTube videos because I just needed a break. And I think that that's totally okay. You know, integration [00:15:00] doesn't have to be this completely sterile process that we're, um, constantly working on ourselves during.
And so it was a lot of self-care, uh, exercise. Getting to my Pilates classes was really important at that time. Um, and just spending that time alone, doing a lot, a lot of journaling and self-reflection. I filled out like an entire notebook during the retreat itself. And then when I got home, I, I filled out a huge amount of pages in a new notebook as well.
So there was an internal process that was happening. It was about sensemaking, um, acceptance and starting to see myself more truthfully through. Uh, new lens and, and honestly, I just had to be really, really gentle and easy on myself during, during that time. Um, kept work to a very bare minimum and it was just about [00:16:00] tending to myself during that first initial phase.
And I would say that that lasted probably like a month or so. Yeah, and then things really started to lighten up and things got a lot better, which we can talk about later on. But yeah, it was really important during that first initial stage to just be internal, quiet, slow. Um, I was sober for four months after as well, which I found really important because my mental state was so fragile that I, I didn't trust myself to like get high or change my consciousness anyway.
I really had to just like be present with what. Was there for me and, and process it and work through it. And I booked a call or two with a therapist, which was really important just to be witnessed and seen. And this is a therapist that I had worked with on and off for like I would say, seven or eight years.
And so that was really important to just like share [00:17:00] that update of self knowledge with her.
Kev G: Wow. That sounds, uh, tough.
Lana Pribic: Well Iboga is not for the faint of heart, I will say that. Yeah. Literally.
Kev G: Sure. Well, when you're going through that period, was there anything. That you had to, um, face internally around like your own expectations or judgements of that process? Or did you just like know that it was time to rest and like, you know, watch YouTube and journal or, or were you like, were those kind of like coping mechanisms that you've learned for these other, like, mental places?
I guess what I'm asking is like, how, like, were you, were you immediately aware and accepting of what you had to do to begin integrating? Or like, did you, did you have to like [00:18:00] work towards that?
Lana Pribic: Hmm. I think I was pretty accepting of it, just 'cause I've been through this process a few times before. I think what I was afraid of during that time was that it wasn't gonna get easier, that my entire life was going to change that because I learned this new layer of myself. I didn't actually know myself.
I was questioning who I was. Like I was in a place at that time where I was like, do I even know who I am? Like if I was seeing myself through this certain lens that was inaccurate this whole time, then like. What else am I seeing that's inaccurate about myself? And so I really have to like question who I am in, in a lot of ways.
And honestly, I wanted to hide for a lot of it. I haven't been like showing up online as much, um, on the podcast as much [00:19:00] sharing my process as much during this time because like that shame that I was sitting with and being with and, and uh, processing was a 15-year-old shame wound that was unraveling before me.
And so I wanted to hide. I I didn't want to see my friends really. I didn't want to go online. I didn't wanna share about my process. Um, yeah, it was, it was, it was strange for me because I'm someone who usually loves to share and tends to overshare and actually oversharing. Especially online was something that I was working with during this time because, uh, the medicine actually showed me, like, why I tend to do that.
And the oversharing online was a way for me to control my own self-image and a way for me to show the world, like, this is who I am. I know who I am, this is who I am, this is my [00:20:00] story, this is what I'm about. But then deep underneath there was this lie that I had been telling myself and this oversharing and just like my overall online,
um, my online persona, I would say I, I was seeing how that was a form of control. And so stepping back at that time was really important as well. Yeah.
Kev G: Hmm.
Lana Pribic: Yeah.
Kev G: Nice. How has that come back then? Like where, where did you go from there? I mean, that sounds pretty, uh, serious. how, what, what, what came next? And like, how did you like re-approach just for sake of the illustration, like that very thing, like how did you reapproach her online persona?[00:21:00]
Lana Pribic: I think that's a piece I'm honestly still figuring out. Um, a lot of it has just been about wanting to be as honest online with my audience and community and friends and family as I am wanting to be and, and practicing being with myself. And that's a really interesting thing to try to navigate because at the end of the day.
I actually don't owe anyone any type of explanation or, uh,
or insight into my life and process. So I kind of put the power back in my hands to be a little bit more intentional about how I show up and what I want to share. And I think because I realized that a lot of it was a mask and control, it took the charge [00:22:00] and the, uh, it took the urgency to do it away. It was like, oh, now I know why I'm doing it, so I don't actually need to do it anymore.
I'll just deal with the reason why I'm doing it. Right. Um, and then overall, just to like zoom out of just the online sharing part, what got me through that period was. This thing that Iboga told me during my ceremony, which was, I don't know the future. I only know the now. That's been like my anchor statement.
A reminder to come back into the present, a reminder that life is inherently uncertain and that it's my job to trust life and trust myself and be as present as possible, and try not to get thrown into these anxious loops and patterns that have been a part of my life forever. Um, because all of that yeah, goes back to, to, to control controlling self perception, controlling self [00:23:00] image, and controlling people and circumstances to fit the story and narrative that I want it to fit rather than just allowing life and people and relationships to unfold naturally.
So I think when I started understanding that, that it really is about trust and that the best thing that I can do. f for the future that I tend to be so anxious about is to honor, love, respect myself, be honest with myself, and in turn give that back to the world and people that I'm in relationship with. I think that's what kind of started getting me out of the, the fear and the shame.
It, it really came back to trusting life and trusting myself even in uncertainty. And another thing that I started to [00:24:00] recognize was that was this concept of slow healing and just letting things unfold really, really slowly. And that can be really hard for people. I know this because I work with clients and they all like want it to happen right away.
And this is something that we work through often. Uh, with this idea of slow healing, the layer of that that doesn't get talked about often is that
like, I'm so guilty of this. People on their healing journeys, we kind of make it our entire personality.
Kev G: Hmm.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. We, we kind of make it our entire personality and the healing our entire personality and this fixing this wound our entire life. And I have been doing that for so long. I mean, I started an entire public platform and podcast sharing my experiences with [00:25:00] healing and personal transformation with psychedelics.
Like no one is more guilty of that than me. Um, and what I really started realizing during this integration period that I hadn't realized during other integration periods is that other aspects of my life are allowed to exist and allowed to thrive regardless of where I am in my healing journey. I, you know, I don't need to wait to be healed in order to live a creative, fulfilled, happy life.
There's all these other aspects of who I am that can exist and thrive. while I am unraveling the shame and these anxious patterns that I have been living with. And so, yeah, to summarize the slow healing concept and really like understanding how to apply that combined with trust and I don't know the future.
I only know the now. Like those were really my anchors during that time. That got me [00:26:00] out of the shame spiral and released a lot of that heavy energy during that time.
Kev G: Oh, that sounds like useful stuff to realize as you go through this process.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. How's that kind of feeling? Ke.
Kev G: Oh yeah. Yeah. For those who dunno, I took Conna right before this podcast and, uh, the update there is that it's certainly, uh, kicking in. I
Lana Pribic: You're so funny.
Kev G: accidentally took twice the recommended dose, so, uh,
Lana Pribic: Whoops.
Kev G: I'll let you know how it goes as it continues to go.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Yeah. I think, oh, another thing I wanna mention about that first kind of phase, um, which I would say was like this descent into the shadow, like I bogus showed me the shadow and this like first integration phase was like being in the shadow, being in the shame. Um, one other thing [00:27:00] was happening at that time because the context of my iboga journey was around partnership, like romantic partnership, intimate partnership.
Um, and it kind of took me through like everyone I've ever been involved with and dated and it was basically just like, here's why all your relationships have been fucked up. Um,
Kev G: Nice.
Lana Pribic: during, during this time, I was starting to understand what I actually wanted in a partner and what I actually desired. I was starting to see like all these characteristics in partners that I had been looking for before were, again, another form of control so that I could project who I thought I was to the world.
Um, and once the [00:28:00] illusion broke, once I could see myself, clearly I could, I also started seeing clearly what I actually wanted, what I actually valued. So that was something that was also starting to. Unfold directly after this experience, which was, you know, directly related to, to my intentions. Um, in, in doing the iboga a work.
Yeah,
Kev G: Oh, cool. So how did that. Uh, change or progress, as you exited the shadow? Is that, is that just what happened next? Or how did that Yeah. What was that like? Next phase, like,
Lana Pribic: yeah. The next phase was a lot more stable. Yeah. It was a lot more stable. I think my energy started stabilizing, I would say like June, July, two, three months after the journey. Um, as I like sat through the shame and the shadow and started [00:29:00] releasing it, um, energy within me opened up to start focusing on self-care.
And my creativity became so important to me as well. And you know, I was still spending a lot of time doing things that made me feel good. At that time I was doing a running program and Pilates, and I was really focusing on reducing my screen time last year reading more books. I was getting more deeply into my style journey and expressing myself creatively and authentically through that.
Um, and I naturally started to trust life more and, and lean into the unknown more as things started to lighten and that shame started to lift. And I think I just started getting deeper and deeper and deeper into. Into trust. And [00:30:00] then I actually went on a trip with my parents to the Balkans, which is where I was born, in former Yugoslavia.
And so this was really interesting because,
you know, I've talked about my father wound or like my daddy issues on the podcast many times. Um, and it was really interesting because this like thing that I had discovered about myself was directly related to why I was always so angry at my father. And that was like an insane revelation because I just, , after like so much self-inquiry and so many attempts to understand myself, I still didn't understand why the fuck I was so.
Angry at my dad all the time, and I really got to understand why that was. And so this trip to the Balkans with my parents, I was a little bit nervous about and I, I wasn't sure how it was gonna go [00:31:00] because I was still pretty fresh out. It was only like four or six weeks after. Um, but going back to the culture and the, the land and the, the people that were honestly largely responsible for the reason I felt ashamed of who I was because I didn't want to be judged by my parents, by my dad, by my culture.
Um, it was really powerful. It was really powerful to go back to the Balkans after this journey and to really like face my culture and face the people and just face that part of myself as this more integrated. Version of who I am and the shadow aspect that I had discovered about myself was also the reason why I pushed my [00:32:00] culture away for so long.
Like, I had been ashamed and embarrassed and resistant to my culture for the longest time. Um, and now that I understood why that was, I was able to go and just like, enjoy this time and enjoy the food, and enjoy the culture and enjoy the cities and, you know, learn a little bit more about the history and the place where I came from, um, in a way that just felt perfectly on time.
Um, and in particular, yeah, Belgrade was a city, that really pushed my integration process forward. 'cause, you know, the, the first phase was all about trust and. Being okay with the unknown. And then we kind of built off of that because Belgrade showed me that all I need to do is follow the energy. Like sometimes things don't make sense and sometimes the things that we're attracted to or the people that we're attracted to, [00:33:00] naturally, they don't make sense, but there's an energy that you need to follow.
And that showed up in Belgrade because Belgrade is this like really like worn down, kind of, kind of ugly city. Um, but it has so much like soul and character and, and beauty as well. And so it was showing me that like, you're so attracted to the city, even though it's not like the most beautiful on the outside, and you don't have to fully understand why.
You just have to follow the energy. So that was, that was a big, big part of it as well. Yeah.
Kev G: Wow, that sounds like. A perfect time to go do that. Like somehow, I don't know. Did you plan that or did that
Lana Pribic: Yeah, that was planned before Iboga and like, I think Iboga just works like that.
Kev G: very cool.
Lana Pribic: You, it was perfect.
Kev G: That's nice. It seems like some final boss type stuff.
Lana Pribic: was, um, I was also, I stayed sober throughout that [00:34:00] whole trip too, so that was until the very end, I think it was like the last four days I had, I went back to Belgrade by myself and I was like, okay, I'm ready to break my sobriety.
But yeah, that continued to be an important part of the process. Yeah.
Kev G: Yeah, for sure. I mean, what, uh, what, uh, what did you break your sobriety with?
Lana Pribic: Uh, wine? No, it was a spritz.
Kev G: Ooh. Ooh,
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Ail, spritz and then wine. Yeah. Yes. Well, 'cause I found this really cute wine bar that I wanted to go have a drink at, and I was like, okay, it's it's time.
Kev G: Nice.
Lana Pribic: When I got home, I think it was like, uh, July, early July, I started smoking cannabis again.
Yeah.
Kev G: Nice. So then at that point, like, what are you, how's that working out for you? Like, you know, are you, is, is cannabis now part of your integration or is that just sort of like your, uh, [00:35:00] you're kind of lifestyle coming back online? Uh, and how's, how's that journey at that point?
Lana Pribic: Yeah. I think it's my lifestyle becoming more authentic in a way. Um.
Kev G: Mm-hmm.
Lana Pribic: You know, cannabis is a part of my almost daily life at this point right now. And it's something that greatly supports my internal process when I'm trying to make sense of things, make sense of myself, makes sense of the world, um, also for my creativity. And also I find that it just greatly supports my anxiety and my mood.
It, it's really interesting because my anxiety felt really under control for the last couple of years.
I did not feel like an anxious person. I wasn't struggling with anxiety. I feel like after Iboga this time, the anxiety started coming back, but in a new way. It was like [00:36:00] Iboga was showing me the intensity of my anxiety, the intensity of my mind spirals. I think this is a very common experience during integration where, um, it actually feels like things are becoming worse or like we're regressing rather than becoming better.
But my take on that is actually that it. Iboga was showing me the intensity of my spirals, and it was like Hey, like look, this is your mind. This is your mind. And one of the things that we learned through the Iboga medicine is that we are not our minds and we are not our thoughts. And it's something, it's a medicine that teaches us to differentiate truth from thoughts.
And so I had this really incredible opportunity after this to come face to face with how anxious my mind is and always has been. And, and so the way that I dealt [00:37:00] with that was I treated it as just an opportunity to observe and to get to know myself better, to catch myself in it, and to not act from it.
But it was really easy to follow the thread of, okay, this is my anxious thought. If I buy into this, this is how I'm gonna react and act, but I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna choose this other way. And that's like the bulk of what integration has been like. Yeah. So it's un uncomfy. It's really un uncomfy at times.
Yeah.
Kev G: that's great. Adding that space between, uh, impulse and action
lets you choose
Lana Pribic: yeah,
Kev G: action.
That's cool. So you talked about, um, like your relationship patterns and, uh, and sort of coming face to face with, with things that may have [00:38:00] contributed to your, your, your past. Did anything happen in your next period where, uh, you know, you might have gotten an opportunity to try that out again? Huh, I ask knowing the answer already, 'cause I know you in personal life.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Yes. After I came back from Europe, I felt inspired and there was an emergence and a softening, right? And I felt like I was like ready to live my life again. And just two weeks after I returned from Europe, okay, when I was in Belgrade, rewind, rewind. When I was in Belgrade the last day or two, you know, I had spent five days in the city.
I had the best time. Um, you know, I went and did things that I love to do. Shopping and eating and cafes and you know, all the stuff. City explor. And I [00:39:00] noticed there was the sadness that was present during that time. And I, I found that I was like, really desiring someone special in my life. And I even made like an Instagram post and I was like, Ugh.
Like I love traveling. I love myself, I love spending time with myself. It's, it's wonderful to be in a place where I have this relationship with myself, where I can spend so much time by myself that, you know, I can't deny that I really do want someone special in my life to share these moments with. And I've kind of accepted that that just may not happen for me because I had been single at this point for I think six or seven years, like quite, quite a while, um, with pretty much no.
No romance very little dating. I had really only connected with one person during that time. Um, all the dates I went on and people I met, [00:40:00] it just, it wasn't right. So I was in a place after Europe where there was a sadness and there was a longing, but also, uh, on the other side of that, I was excited to start living my life again and just excited to be back in Toronto.
And so two weeks after I came home, I had a festival that I was working at for my Kanna company, Kanna Wellness. And, you know, it's so true what they say. Someone comes into your life when you absolutely least expect it. Like I had just come to terms with this idea that like, you know, I may have to live the rest of my life single.
And that's okay. I accept that. It's sad, but I accept it. And this wonderful, wonderful man just walked into my life and found me. Um. And, you know, at first I was like very resistant. He was not my type. Um, I wasn't like super attracted immediately. Um, just 'cause I had this [00:41:00] idea in my mind of like what my type is.
And as the weekend progressed, you know, it just, it just, uh, got more, uh, we connected more and more and yeah, it was, it was pretty pretty, it definitely threw me for a loop to have someone like, so.
Interested in me and just kind of like, it felt like he kind of just like saw me and like was like, you, I want you. And, and I had not experienced something like that before.
And so it was a really interesting, um, it was a really interesting coming together. Yeah. And yeah, we can talk a little bit about what that has brought up for me. But I, I almost six months into this relationship now, I do see this person as a direct gift, um, from the work that I did with Iboga. And, you know, he came right on time after Iboga and after Belgrade.
It [00:42:00] was like all the lessons that I needed to apply. I did before, uh, this person came into my life. Yeah.
Kev G: Hmm. Love that. It's funny, I, I had first asked like, what was your integration plan? As if, as if one could even have a real plan for this type of thing. And then now, like, hearing what the journey has been like so far, I'm like, oh wow. Like if you could plan it, this would be a great set of activities. Like take a couple months and then go on a trip to your hometown or your home country and then, and go to a festival and expose yourself to new energies.
And now,
Lana Pribic: life is the integration plan, I guess.
Kev G: wow. Hey, that's a good takeaway. Life is the integration plan.
Lana Pribic: Truly, truly. I mean, it's been, it's been a very, I'm elated, surprised, uh, just blown. The thing that was coming up for me during this [00:43:00] phase, like returning back, uh, before the fall was like everything's falling into place and just let it fall into place. Like you don't have to do anything. Like life's just falling into place.
And also this idea of life, let life continue to surprise you. Um, what you think you're looking for isn't always looking for you. And that was like such a lesson from the Belgrade chapter as well. Like, just let it surprise you. Be open, follow the energy, let everything fall into place. Yeah.
Kev G: That reminds me of this idea called interventionism, which is where like. We get involved in something that doesn't need us to get involved in. That happens a lot in like medicine where like we're like prescribing medicines or things that like, kind of just should just take their own journey and stuff.
And I think it sounds like a theme of what you're saying is like, is like, try not to like, let yourself, [00:44:00] um, only consider options that you've already considered or that you could feasibly conceive. Like, you know, like let, like let new stuff happen,
Lana Pribic: Yeah,
Kev G: with it. Yeah.
Lana Pribic: I feel like you're really good at that.
Kev G: Well, yeah, but I mean, I'm, at the same time I'm like, I'm very much like not until I am like in the same way that like your journey is.
Thin on this particularly. Like I, I, I, I'm resonating with that and being like, oh man, like I could really use a bit more openness sometimes.
Lana Pribic: Mm-hmm.
Kev G: Um, hey, maybe that's got to do with the cannabis. Let's see. I'll sue some experimenting Yeah. For this, and I'll let you know. Uh, by the way, the KANA update is, uh, I'm definitely feeling energized.
Lana Pribic: Okay.
Kev G: I've got some life rising within me and, uh, I'm gonna try
to keep my voice down. Yeah, my cheese is moving
Lana Pribic: Nice, nice.
Kev G: you hear me? Ah,
Lana Pribic: high [00:45:00] velocity.
Kev G: high velocity. That's right.
Lana Pribic: Nice.
Kev G: Um, to the, back to the topic at hand. Um, what's, what came next? Then like, are you, uh, where are you at now? And, uh, literally physically where are you at now?
And then also like, where are you at now in your
Lana Pribic: Yeah.
Kev G: journey?
Lana Pribic: Yeah. I mean, there's so much I can say about, oh, how, yeah. Entering this relationship in the summer was a continuation of all the work that Iboga has been asking me to do, you know? Uh, I, like I shared, I am someone who naturally has an anxious attachment style, which for me means that, yeah, when, when there's [00:46:00] space or silence in relationship, if I'm not constantly being reaffirmed of, you know, my, if, if my partner's not constantly reaffirming me, like I start to get anxious and I start to fear that the connection isn't secure.
And so the, the ways that Iboga continued to work with me leading up to this present moment was it showed me the intensity of my spirals again and again and again. You know, it's never easy to,
to enter a new relationship, um, after being single for so long. And so. There were so many moments, like in the early days, especially, where I had to come face to face with these spirals in a way that I wouldn't have been able to outside of relationship. [00:47:00] Like there's certain things that can only truly be worked through in real time.
And so Iboga has this way of revealing the architecture of your mind, even when the medicine is outta your system. So the way that the integration continued was that I could, um, I started to become hyper aware of my anxious attachment style I reread attached. Okay. Um, and so I became hyper aware of these like anxious thought loops stories, my emotional reactivity, and the fact that I could see.
These spirals in real time. Like I actually could catch myself in real time as I was spiraling. That was something new for me because the way that I had showed up for other relationships in the past was I would have the anxious trigger and then I would have an emotional reaction, and then I would allow that emotional reaction to [00:48:00] guide my, uh, actions and the way that I actually responded, reacted, communicated, um, related to the other person.
But the fact that I could see the spirals in real time allowed me space to not react. And so I wasn't creating unnecessary tension in the relationship. I wasn't putting things on my partner that I didn't need to put on him. And then I was learning to deal with my emotions and my anxiety. On my own. Like, that's so massive for me, that's so, so massive as like a recovering codependent, being able to catch myself and not act from these anxious spirals, not outsource my power and not outsource my support has been big.
And of course, as the relationship is evolving, I'm also learning like where it's appropriate for me to reach out and ask for support, whereas where it's something that I need to look at and work through, uh, myself. [00:49:00] But, um, where I am now and how all of this has been unfolding is that I am experiencing relationship without chaos and emotional security for the first time.
And that's like so far, even beyond just this relationship, you know, I don't think I would've been able to attract, um, this relationship without being like that on my own. And so. Learning to receive emotional safety and openness and like have the hard conversations and speak my mind and speak my truth and say when I'm unhappy and state my expectations.
Like, these are all things that I am learning very much in, in real time. And so, you know, the integration continues and the relationship with myself is deepening the relationship with my new partner is deepening. And yeah, it's been, it's been, [00:50:00] it's been a lighter chapter, I would say, but I am in, I'm in Mexico City right now.
To answer your, your first question, I'm in Mexico City and that was all, like, I planned to come to Mexico City pretty much immediately after Baja. So I booked an Airbnb six months in advance, and I just knew I had to come here for some reason. I didn't know what that reason was until I got here.
I'm, you know. Doing long distance, which is not easy and not fun, and, you know, and the work will continue with that., But 100% Iboga sent me here. Um, I feel like this is an Iboga mission. I'm here to, to learn something, to practice being someone and to continue this work. And I think that iboga is a medicine that demands a lot of strength.
Um, it's asking me to be strong, to be a strong woman. It's like this, this call to become like a strong woman, uh, is, is very strong.
So I think that, um, being here in Mexico City, it's [00:51:00] loud, it's chaotic, it's so dysregulating. Um. Um, I have severe noise sensitivity that I have been working on healing within my nervous system with plant medicine as well, kind of off to the side. And so just being here is a huge leap for me. Um, I've always dreamed of living in a big city like New York City or something.
And so the opportunity to be here right now is incredible. I am, I am flexing my creativity and working on the branding for kind of wellness and just being so, so inspired and also leaning into trust, right? As an anxiously attached woman who's working towards secure attachment, being long distance in a new relationship is not easy, and I have to face that every day and every week.
And so that is, that's, it's all part of the plan. It's all part of the curriculum here, and I do think that it's all making me, making me stronger.[00:52:00]
Kev G: This is, this is life's curriculum.
Lana Pribic: Yeah.
Kev G: Nice. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I was gonna say that's like level 10, uh, challenge for, uh, for relationship is, uh, yeah. Going long distance while you're working on
Lana Pribic: Mm-hmm. And I think the old me would've been like, you know, old codependent me who just wanted and needed love from anyone and everyone. I probably would've like, canceled my trip to Mexico City and just stayed home and not done that. And this is something that I'm doing for myself and something that I'm doing for my, my, my creative development, my career development, my professional development, my personal development.
Like, I know I have to be here right now. And I'm really happy to be here right now. And I, I, like I said, iboga sent me here for sure.
Kev G: Yeah. Big respect to you for committing to follow your energy at that level. I mean, not a lot of people would choose to keep doing hard stuff like that. [00:53:00] So shout outs. You get a gold star,
Lana Pribic: we can do hard things.
Kev G: you know, we can, we can do hard things.
Lana Pribic: The internal changes are very much still integrating every day. That's why it kind of feels silly and weird, but it also feels honest to record an episode like this that's like, yeah, six months later, nine months later. There's no definitive like end or like, I think these medicines are just showing us life in a different way.
Like there's no, there's no end and there's no nothing to to complete. It's just a matter of like staying on the path and letting it all continue to unfold in surprising ways.
Kev G: Yeah, I mean, it sounds like the insights you've shared so far just in our conversation have been like, like, that sounds like the type of breakthrough that you would have on, uh, after, you know, a long program of certain types of therapy. And then also, you know, after years of, uh, like working on yourself and, [00:54:00] and I'm sure both of those things are true for you as well, but like, I'm curious like. If you were to big picture, look back and, and see the way that Iboga has affected the, the course of your life till now, like are there any large takeaways or, or themes that, that are like present for you right now?
Lana Pribic: Yeah, that's a good question. Hmm. That it's really important to know yourself truthfully, um, because you are experiencing the world, which includes, you know, your outer world, your relationships. Your ambitions, everything. Um, It's all filtered through your own self perception of yourself and the world. And I forget who said this, but I, I love this quote that I can only [00:55:00] know.
I can only understand the world as deeply as I can understand myself. And so I think it's easy to say that focusing so much on our personal development and our healing is selfish. And it is selfish in a way, it's self-serving, definitely. You can't deny that. And
it matters beyond us at the same time, because if I can see myself more truthfully, I can see the world more truthfully, and I can show up more truthfully and hopefully contribute to a more truthful. world And yeah, one thing that I do wanna acknowledge is that for me, everything that's felt out of [00:56:00] alignment, like um, everything that's felt like there's resistance, stuckness, just heavy energy.
Um, it's been because I haven't been able to see myself in a truthful way. And because I've been, uh, telling lies to myself, you know, for different reasons because there's this story that this, this lie needs to be true or otherwise I'm not gonna be loved and accepted by my dad or my culture or the world , by myself.
And so if we can start seeing ourselves more truthfully and understand how to see through the lens of truth, I think that. That is, it's not something that's gonna just make everything better right away, but I think that it gives us a strong internal compass that we can use to navigate all the ups and downs, the challenges and the opportunities of, of life.
Yeah.
Kev G: I mean, [00:57:00] of course. Right? Like seeing yourself seeing any, anything more truthfully is gonna help you live more in alignment. I mean, who wants to spend their life, uh, maintaining a, you know, a coping mechanism for something they haven't faced? Like it's self selfishness is the starting point for highest contribution.
Lana Pribic: mm-hmm.
Kev G: And, and, and if you can get that clarity, then you can live in alignment with your energy and like Yeah. Seeing yourself, I mean, I think it was, yeah, you told me that like iboga is like a mirror and, uh. And like what, what a useful tool a mirror is.
Lana Pribic: It's the most, yeah, it's, it's the most, it's useful tool and, um, see, you know, [00:58:00] seeing yourself clearly through a mirror that isn't fogged up like a very clean mirror, that is not gonna lie to you. That is what heals doesn't make everything better right away. But once you see the truth of who you are,, once you can see the truth. For better or for worse, the shadow and the light. Um, that's when I think things have an opportunity to start falling into place. Truth is very, very potent medicine. Iboga is the medicine of truth. I've said this before and I'll say it again.
When we eat Iboga, we're entering a lifelong relationship with truth and with seeing ourselves truthfully. And so that's why this work is ongoing and continuous. And like I said, even like the Iboga journey I did three years ago, it's still very alive for me. So anyone who's considering it, [00:59:00] like just know that you are really signing up for not just a a, a plant medicine experience, but uh, a new way of relating to yourself and and the world through this, this lens of truth.
And what I have also learned is that, you know, what was once so scary? And so hard to look at. So hard to look at that. It took me like a crazy showdown, flood dose of medicine to like crack open this room in my brain that I had been avoiding. You know, these things that we avoid within ourselves. I don't wanna diminish how hard it is to look at some of these things, but when we shine the light of truth on them, it's like this balloon, it's like the, it's, it's a balloon that's been like building up pressure and pressure and pressure and pressure and pressure and like 15 years of pressure, right?
And then once you finally look at [01:00:00] it, you just like pop the balloon and release the pressure. And there might be a shock immediately afterwards. Um, and it, it might not get better immediately afterwards, but over time it really does get better. And I've heard iboga facilitators and providers say this as well, that.
You know, it, it's very common for people to have challenging experiences with iboga and, and really confront challenging aspects of their self. But it does get better. It really does get better. Just stay with it and take care of yourself and be with yourself and, you know, don't, don't run, don't hide. You know?
And, and it will get better. And what was one so scary and so heavy? It's like, it's nothing anymore. It's not that it's nothing, but like the weight of it has diminished so incredibly much. And I would not have guessed that I would've been here, that I would not have guessed nine months ago that I would come to this place, like living in Mexico City, in [01:01:00] my most creative era, in a wonderful partnership with a wonderful man.
You know, just expressing myself authentically. I, I, I have to say I am. Happy and pleased and, and content with, with life. And I'm learning to just like take the good with the bad and Yeah. Keep flowing with it.
Kev G: Hey, now. That's great. I was gonna, I was gonna ask you, where are you at now? And you just said all of that stuff, which is, it's just so lovely. I mean, like you said, it's, it's, it's tougher, it's tough to face yourself. But it's, it's tougher not to.
Lana Pribic: I agree. I actually so agree with that. Yeah. 'cause the life I was living before when I was lying to myself was, it was not like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kev G: Any, uh, any final thoughts, takeaways, uh, lessons, words, ideas,
Lana Pribic: Mm-hmm.[01:02:00]
Kev G: facial expressions?
Lana Pribic: Yeah. You know, I, again, I've said this. Before as well, but it's a long process and, you know, maybe I'll do another update in another year or something. But, you know, you really are signing up for a long process, uh, potentially a lifelong process, and you gotta be the active participant in it. And I'm just, yeah, I'm, I'm really grateful and I, it's interesting, one of the things that I've kind of been navigating this year with my podcast, with my public presence, with my professional work is I, there's something shifting in how I relate to medicine work and I'm not exactly sure what that is.
Um, but there is, there's something that is being dismantled about how medicine work is approached. Um, and I'm excited to keep developing [01:03:00] that and hopefully supporting people, but. I think life is where the work actually happens. Life is where the actual work happens. And, you know, psychedelic people love to talk about like the matrix and escaping the Matrix and the new Earth and, and all of that.
And this has been unraveling for me for a, a few years, but right now I'm at a point where I'm like, you know, I don't really want or need any high dose medicine experiences for quite a while. Um, I have not had any since iboga nine months ago. I don't have anything planned. I kind of just wanna chill and live my life.
I want to enjoy my life. I want to, you know, put my energy in the places that I feel will make the most difference for my life and for humanity as a whole. And. You [01:04:00] know, I, I don't wanna carry the weight of the world on my shoulders anymore. Like, I am releasing the responsibility of carrying the weight of the world on my shoulders more and more.
And yeah, that's, that's, I'll leave it there. Yeah. Yeah.
Kev G: Heck yeah. This is a, that's an evolution right
Lana Pribic: I just wanna, I just wanna chill and live.
Kev G: Yeah. Chill and live, both of those things. it sounds like you're equipped to do both of those things right
Lana Pribic: yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was really enlightening. I worked at an Iboga retreat, was it, like two months ago now, and it was so enlightening. 'cause part of that was to explore whether I want to continue developing as a facilitator and a provider. And I'm at a point right now where I'm like, Nope. Yeah.
Coaching being a ceremonial helper. Sure. But like the responsibility of. Uh, caring for [01:05:00] someone's entire journey is not something that interests me. I don't want that responsibility right now. Selfishly, I really just want to, I, I, I just wanna enjoy my life and I think, I think I've, I think I've earned it at this point.
Kev G: Sure.
Lana Pribic: Yeah.
Kev G: Yeah. You
Lana Pribic: for living and enjoying Yeah. While still, you know, quietly working away on various projects and things in the background, but it's this, it's this, this no longer feeling like I need to be the one that fixes everyone and everything, which I think was part of what was drawing me towards that, uh, towards that role.
Um, yeah.
Kev G: Would it be correct to to say that part of that feeling was, was a like misplaced or like an outwardly directed [01:06:00] um, drive that was based on actually truly just wanting to fix or uncover some part of yourself that would allow you to live a little more freely?
Lana Pribic: Yeah, I think that's probably pretty common with people in those positions. And I think the fact that my desire for being a facilitator kind of went away after I got my, you know, the healing that I was looking for in regards to why I was trapped and unable to find a romantic partnership that felt actually good.
Now that I kind of like see that and have. Uh, accomplished what I wanted to accomplish. It just fizzled out. It's like that desire is no longer there. So I, I think you're definitely onto something and, you know, six, seven years ago when I first started with like medicine where ayahuasca and mushrooms, it was coming out of a breakup.
It was like dealing with the codependency, the anxious attachment, the, the low self-worth that I [01:07:00] had, that kept me
looking to people to feed me and fix me rather than looking to people because I genuinely liked them and wanted them in my life. Um, yeah. Yeah. There's been a completion here and I think that that desire going away is part of that loop closing. Yeah. And I hope that's inspiring for people who are listening because everyone wants to be a facilitator.
It's like, hey, everyone wants to hold space and take people on journeys. And I think it's really interesting to explore that a little bit and see where that, that is really, really coming from. Yeah.
Kev G: Yeah. Yeah. Exploring your motivations
and being real truthful with yourself, just to make sure, I mean, hey, if you come outta that questioning and you still want to do what you wanted to do in the first place, then great. Cool. Great. But [01:08:00] being open to that being an entirely different journey that's now afoot is like also part of that, of the process.
Lana Pribic: Yeah.
Kev G: Let life surprise
Lana Pribic: I was just about to say that.
Kev G: Oh, damn. Okay. No, you say it. We'll cut me out. You
Lana Pribic: No, no. It was perfect. Yeah. Who knows? You know, maybe 10 years from now it will be my calling, but right now I just wanna chill.
Kev G: nice. I'm catching a, a second hand chill. Just, uh, just hearing you talk about it. So I, uh, just on behalf of, uh, everyone listening, I'm sure, uh, this was super inspiring and, uh, encouraging and I, I feel like I don't even have to take a iboga to apply these insights. So thank you for helping scaffold my own journey.
Lana Pribic: Dude, it's strong medicine. Like, I don't know if you can feel the energy of Iboga right now, but even just like being in a container, like a retreat setting and [01:09:00] where I wasn't taking iboga, but just like being around the medicine, being around people who are on the medicine like that. I did a little solo, um, for subscribers only a couple months ago where I talked about the, the experience of being a helper at the Iboga retreat and like that was its own thing and its own continuation of the ceremony.
But yeah. You're picking up something very real, which is that it, it's a potent medicine. I'm curious, what do you, how do you feel and think about Iboga as someone who's like one of my best friends and hears me talk about it all the time and has kind of like seen me go through this process. Like how do you, what are your thoughts and, and feelings and, and yeah, just general observations about it as kind of like an outsider.
Kev G: Oh man. It's, to me, iboga feels like. Um, maybe like the second [01:10:00] final boss type of, uh, of like medicine. Um, I have like a, I have a lot of respect for anyone who puts themselves into a position of taking these, any powerful plant medicine at any significant dose. So, like, you know, hearing about your journeys with ayahuasca and, uh, you know, mushrooms and anything like that has been, um, been humbling.
Uh, and I'm, I'm humbled by the idea of those things existing. And then when I hear about Iboga and, uh, and the, and, and the, the journeys you've been on, I just think like it's a, uh, it's almost like a it's like the nuclear option for like going to the source. I, I keep thinking about sometimes I compare my own like, development journey to that of like a version of me who's doing plant medicines on a regular basis [01:11:00] or, or something.
And I think, well, like, of course I should just be doing plant medicines. Why am I doing anything except for that? It's a direct route to it. Um, and in that, I mean, I'm not even sure that, I don't believe that still, like, uh, there's part of me that does believe that, um, like it's, it's a, uh, not a shortcut, but a, uh, a speeder upper, uh, to, to some stuff.
Um, I like getting the secondhand the take of it though. 'cause I still get a benefit. I, I, I, it's so powerful that I can, I can like see your conclusions and apply them. To myself and I, I, I feel like I've got, I just take, took a little bit of a not, not that I did,
Lana Pribic: Wow.
Kev G: it was, just kana that I took
Lana Pribic: It was just another African plant.
Yeah. That's amazing. What, so what is the, because you said it's the second final boss. What's the [01:12:00] first,
who's the
Kev G: my mind it's, I, I just consider five M-E-O-D-M-T as
Lana Pribic: Oh, interesting.
Kev G: new flash nuclear reset
Lana Pribic: Oh, okay. Yeah.
Kev G: that's just my own hierarchy, having not taken any of these, but hearing like fairly extensive reports.
Lana Pribic: Interesting. In my hierarchy of psychedelics, I think Iboga is, they're both really direct, but in different ways, right? Yeah. Yeah. Where like Iboga is more direct to like your humanity and your own inner truth. Whereas I think five ME is more direct about like universal truths.
Kev G: that's that. 'cause that's
to me.
Lana Pribic: truths and personal truths.
Kev G: Ah,
Lana Pribic: It's two edge, it's two sides of the same coin.
Kev G: See, that could, right. I was gonna say, maybe that's just me thinking that, that I'm, I'm nothing compared to the universe, so maybe that's why that's higher on the hierarchy.
Lana Pribic: well,
Kev G: Maybe I am the universe. Wait a second.
Lana Pribic: Sh
now [01:13:00] you're onto
Kev G: Uh oh.
Lana Pribic: Yes.
Kev G: Life is surprising me right now.
Lana Pribic: I love that. Yeah. Uh hmm. What was I gonna say? The, what they say at Etereo is that like, you know, you're the final boss, so I love that you used that word, but like, you know, even with iboga, like you're the final boss, it, it all has to go through you. And I think a medicine like Iboga that like teaches you to face yourself or like forces you to face yourself, um, makes you a better boss.
It makes you a better final boss of your life. So, yeah. I love that.
Kev G: Cool.
Lana Pribic: Yeah.
Kev G: Respect.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Well, thanks Kev,
Kev G: Wow. You're so welcome. What an honor it is to get to, to hear directly, uh, from you about your experience. So thank you for
letting me do this.
Lana Pribic: Can, can I ask you one last
Kev G: Oh yeah, sure.
Lana Pribic: Can, because this is an episode about [01:14:00] the integration arc and you know, what happens after ceremony and all, and all of that. Uh, what has been your perception of, you know, post Etereo, post iboga, round two, Lana, if anything, maybe to you like, it's like nothing's changed, but like, I'm just curious, what, if anything, have you noticed to put you on the spot a little bit
Kev G: yeah. That's a, yeah, that's a great, great question. Um. Well, I noticed that you're glowing. Uh, um, yeah, I mean, it's funny, I, as you were today, I, I could pretty much corroborate all of those takeaways with what I've noticed about you. I mean, I know, I knew you were away. Like I knew that you were in incognito mode for a, for a minute.
And I, and then I, I, I had heard about your, you know, [01:15:00] your trip when, um, when you had went and like how it was, um, significant. I hadn't really realized, um, how connected it was to the, the, uh, bo the Iboga journey that you had been on. Um, but yeah, I could, I can tell that you're even just the way you're speaking of, um, like.
The way you approach your relationship, uh, and the, the energy that you have of being more expressive and I think, yeah, more like, secure is a great word. 'cause
like, I think an anxiousness and the idea of like filling space and stuff. Like, I didn't really notice that too much with you, but I can, I could notice it in the way you related, like your, um, experience of relationships and like what you were yearning for.
And
then after you, um, met your present partner and, um, [01:16:00] and, and you were telling me about it, I could sense that you were feeling more secure without having even known that you had done the work to like, know what that word means. Not that, not that, that you wouldn't, but like, you know, it's, that's the attachment is like an essential.
Topic for any relationship. Even if you are already secure, you should just know that you're
Lana Pribic: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Kev G: understanding someone's attachment style or their attachment trauma is gonna like help you relate to them better. So kudos to you. Yeah,
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Amazing. Well, thank you for that observation. I love
Kev G: Welcome. Yeah.
Lana Pribic: Thank you.
Kev G: Yeah. You, you are right. That's my observation.
Is that your own observations sound correct to me?
Lana Pribic: Okay, so I'm seeing myself clearly.
Yeah, Okay.
Kev G: yeah. Unless you've got us all, unless you've fooled, uh, yourself
Lana Pribic: I think the days of fooling myself and others are hopefully over, uh, at least to some, at [01:17:00] least to in, in some, in the ways that I'm intending them to be over, you
Kev G: Sure. What a secure thing to say.
Lana Pribic: Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Well, I hope this was, uh, useful and helpful for listeners. It's always a little challenging and abstract to talk about something like integration.
Um, and I think that's, that the, the challenge of it is speaking about it in a way that is, uh, an honest depiction of what day-to-day life is after a psychedelic experience that, you know. Shows you something about yourself that is uncomfortable and, and challenging. And I hope that people who are listening and can relate to that feeling, um, find some peace in knowing that it really does lighten up.
And, you know, just, just stay with it. And also, if you're in the shame, if you're in the spiral, if you're in the anxiety, if you're in the fear, you don't need to change that. You just need to be with it [01:18:00] and, and, and, and honor it and it'll pass. So, yeah.
Kev G: Oh yeah, may, may the vibes be with you.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. May the vibes be with you.
Kev G: Also small bonus, we could have cut by this point, but small bonus is, uh, anyone who's sticking around might get to meet Zoe. One second.
Lana Pribic: Oh,
Zoe's so cute.
Kev G: Hi. Oh, hi.
Lana Pribic: Oh, she's so cute. Little blue eyed beauty
Kev G: You got
Lana Pribic: Zoe. Zoe. Doesn't needy boa
Kev G: No,
Lana Pribic: Zoey be decent.
Kev G: Yeah. Zoe, show us your butt. Stop showing us your butt.
Lana Pribic: Well, thank you so much, Kev, for making this a fun and hopefully raw rendition of the last nine months.
Kev G: Yeah. Thank you for, for allowing me the, uh, the pleasure and the honor of, uh. Of, uh, hearing it.
Lana Pribic: yeah. I hope you have a wonderful Sunday with Zoe. Look at her little tail.
Kev G: a [01:19:00] wonderful, have a wonderful Sunday in Mexico.
Lana Pribic: Bye everyone. Thanks for listening.
Kev G: Ciao.
Lana Pribic: Ciao.
Speaker 2: Hi, it's me again. Just wanted to say thank you so much for making it to the end. Thank you, Kev, for being a wonderful host. I think he really did a good job of pulling some things outta me that I probably wouldn't have, uh, shared on my own in a solo episode.
So again, if you're interested in having an iboga experience with Paige, Fletcher Hil and their team, just visit, , Rio Baja do MX to learn more. I'll also leave their social media handles and all of that in the show notes. Below if you want to hear more about that experience. It was episode 1 22 for my kind of trip report, if you will.
And then episode 1 29 is an interview with Paige herself, [01:20:00] fresh out of her fong, bui initiation. And then if you are looking for support during your prep. Integration process for Ebo A I highly recommend that, it can make a huge difference. My program, doing the work with Ebo A is now open for enrollment.
So if that is something that interests you, go ahead and check that out@modernpsychedelics.net.
Slash iboga dash integration dash coaching. Again, I will leave that linked for you in the show notes. And yeah, just wishing you a beautiful, truthful life. Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you in the next episode. Bye.
