131 | The Architecture of Transformation: Building a New Inner Foundation w/ Nadi Miri
““Saying no became my favorite word. It’s how I started respecting my own space, time, and energy.”
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In this deeply inspiring installment of The Journey series, Lana reconnects with her former coaching client Nadi Miri, a powerhouse architect, business owner, and newly minted PhD student whose transformation over the past year reveals what happens when we become the architects of our own inner world.
Through their conversation, Nadi reflects on how coaching helped her move from burnout, overextension, and people-pleasing into clarity, alignment, and authentic leadership. Together, they explore how Nadi redefined her relationship with money, boundaries, creativity, and self-worth—and how learning to say “no” became the foundation for saying a fuller “yes” to herself, her values, and her purpose.
Nadi’s story is one of courage, reflection, and self-reclamation: a reminder that transformation doesn’t come from fixing ourselves, but from consciously rebuilding our belief systems, mindset, and creative process to align with the truth of who we really are.
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Topics Covered:
How Nadi went from burnout and overwhelm to joy and creative flow
Reconnecting with her true values after years of over-giving and people-pleasing
The inner work of setting boundaries and saying “no” without guilt
Reframing money from shame to energetic neutrality and self-worth
Letting go of control and learning to trust her team as a conscious leader
Returning to creativity and curiosity through her PhD journey
How self-acceptance became the foundation for new possibilities
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Lana Pribic, M.Sc., is an ICF Professional Coach, co-founder of Kanna Wellness, and producer & host of the Modern Psychedelics Podcast. With over 230 hours of professional training and four coaching certifications, Lana specializes in psychedelically-informed coaching, guiding individuals through profound inner transformation. Based in Ontario, she merges the power of psychedelics, consciousness, and self-discovery to facilitate deeply impactful experiences. When she's not immersed in her work, you'll likely find her dancing to electronic beats, creating art in the kitchen, practicing patience with her cat, curating her dream wardrobe, or diving into a book.
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Lana Pribic: Hi, Nadi, welcome to the podcast.
Hi Lana. Thanks for having me here.
I'm so happy to see you today. So we started working together in a coaching container over a year ago, and we wrapped up in Feb of this year. So it's been about eight months since I've seen you,
Absolutely.
we've seen each other, and it just so good. And I actually don't know what's been going on in your life too
I know.
recently.
to catch up and hear what's been going on. But can you please introduce yourself to our audience today? Let us know who you are, what you do. Yeah.
Nadi Miri: Yeah.
So my name is Nadi. I'm originally from Iran, but I've been living in Canada for 25 years. So Canada is home for me. , Living in Vancouver and um, I studied architecture and that's what I have done through the past 20 something years in my life. Like 12 years ago, I started my own practice of architecture and yeah, I've been busy with uh, work and running a business. So that's me in a nutshell
For the past.
Lana Pribic: Can you let people know what kind of architecture you do and what kind of projects you work on?
Nadi Miri: I used to work in large firms doing all fancy, glamorous projects. I've been working in New York, Boston fantastic firms in Vancouver. When I started my own business, I had to rescale the project size and, relearn architecture again under my own practice. And I started from single family homes and now I'm expanding to larger projects, multi-families, some commercials, basically mid-size projects.
So that's basically what my focus is these days stays.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Yeah. And work and what you do is just such a big part of you and such a big part of who you are, and you pour so much of your energy and your creativity, your creative energy into what you do. So yeah. We'll link NA's website down below for anyone curious to see. What beautiful buildings and homes that you've been working on over these years.
But when you reached out to me, obviously on, on the outside, you had built some really stunning spaces across North America. You're clearly smart, focused, talented, hardworking, sharp, creative, all of these things. And yet there was something happening beneath the surface that you wanted to bring your attention to through coaching.
So can you let listeners in a little bit on what was happening beneath the surface, emotionally, energetically, maybe even mentally, that led you to reach out for support in the form of a coach?
Nadi Miri: Yeah. So when I started my business, I had to start from the scratch. I didn't have any clientele, minimum contacts, and everything is started from one project, but I realized I need to show up in my extreme best capacity so I can introduce myself to the world and to everyone that I can get the projects from . And I have a tendency to work super fast and taking on lots of work and answering phone calls all the time, answering emails right away. And to begin with, maybe it was necessary to start a business and establish myself in the industry. But at some point after 12 years, I realized I'm doing so much, so fast. With no break, that when I reached out to you, I realized I'm so burnt out, overwhelmed. And also the work was not giving me that inspiration that I was dreaming for. And maybe one reason was because I was saying yes to everything that was coming to my way. At some point I lost the connection to what is true to myself and what was my value on selecting the clients and the projects. And I remember we spent a good amount of time. I'm talking about, the values and the clientele that I'm looking for in the projects that I'm dreaming for. And when I'm so invested, my time and energy just to get the job done, there is no time left for me to go back and reset. Reevaluate where I'm at at this point.
So when I reached out to you, I was completely tired and overwhelmed, and I realized my energy is so scattered. And, architecture is usually considered a very creative profession, but I realized that's fountain and reservoir of creativity for me is so dried out and I need to fit it in and just try to rejuvenate. That's part of my profession.
Lana Pribic: Yeah, it sounds like you were kind of on the hamster wheel, doing the motions, doing the thing. And one day you stopped and looked around you and said where am I? And where is that, that passion and that love for the creative aspects of my profession that I once loved? It seems like I'm not really making space to, to prioritize that as a part of my day to day work.
And, we spent time looking at really those underlying energetic patterns. And when I say underlying energetic patterns, we're really talking about the belief systems that drive our thoughts, that drive our emotions, that drive our actions. Those patterns that were leading to this draining effect, right? These energetic patterns that were making you feel like you had to do it all and you had to say yes to everyone and everything, and you couldn't, you couldn't delegate, you couldn't say no. You even didn't even have a sense of. What it's like to actually empower other people through delegation.
And I know that we talked about that as well, so
Yes.
yeah, there was a lot there. And the tip of the iceberg, like the part that you could actually see was exhaustion, drain disconnection from yourself, but we didn't really know what was beneath the surface. And so we went on a journey together to look at that.
Nadi Miri: Yeah. And there were some sessions that was going really deep. Like it was very reflective. It was very, I started with a topic. I remember first day you told me that every session I need to come up with a question, with a topic. And it wasn't easy to choose from so many topics. And some sessions I didn't know what I'm gonna talk about. We started from one point, and then the end result, end of the session, I was in a different place than when I started. And it was such a surprise that I start with one question and as you mentioned, looking at the under underlaying of those decision makings and patterns is coming from somewhere else that I need to look into that. So that was a huge shift of my perspective
to why I make some decisions and why I keep repeating and the pattern of the behavior I have.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. yeah. Amazing. Yeah, that's exactly what we want. Anyone who goes through a program like this to get is a deeper understanding of why you are the way you are, why you're doing what you do. It's similar to a psychedelic experience, right? I always say that the six months that we spent together is like a slow burn, psychedelic experience.
You're going pretty deep. What I'm cur Okay. Let's jump forward for a second to today and then we're gonna take listeners back to how we got there. I actually don't like, what is, what's your energy like today? How's work feeling? How are you feeling? How's life feeling? What's that transformation been like
Nadi Miri: Okay. I should tell you news because when I reached out to you, one of my decision making was to apply for a PhD program,
Yes.
and that was the part. We spent a good amount of time and just tell you the end result. Now I'm officially a PhD student, so I'm extremely excited and happy, but getting to that point. Thank you.
Lana Pribic: You look so, so thrilled about that.
Nadi Miri: Yes, but getting to, just making a decision. To fit all the things that going on with the business and responsibilities. I already was burned out and I didn't know, just going back to school, how is that gonna help me? And if it's going to help me and why am I thinking that I need to do that?
And we spend a good amount of time to think that there is this, let's call calling, coming from. And is it for me to feed, my egos and adding few more, titles to my signature or is this something that I really want , and we spend a good amount of time on that, that, not the how to apply for the program, but why I am doing that.
And going through the process of doing that and trying to understand why I need that. And for me it was realizing that I need to feed. My creativity. I need to create a focus for myself besides work. I need to create that space be able to be surrounded with like-minded people, professionals, people in academic, and allow myself to do some deep research and trying to really address whatever.
I found a challenge in my practice. So school started in September and I never feel any happier. Like time I go to the classes, I feel like, oh my God, that's exactly what I needed. Like I talked to my teams and my advisors and professors and I feel so refreshed and young and , oh my God, that curiosity that was. Lost under so many works and projects now it's turned on again and um, it's lots of work. But I'm extremely happy that I'm in that program and I wouldn't be to this point if I didn't go through this process, which happened with your help for sure. And now I'm confident that despite all the work that I have, I cannot spend extra time being awake till midnight to go through those school projects. I'm certain that what I'm doing is 'cause I know what kind of value is gonna bring to myself and my life and my career. Answering to your question about the energy level, I feel really high and feeling so happy that. I'm going through this path.
Wow.
Yeah.
Lana Pribic: Wow. So what I am actually hearing you say is that in making this decision to go back to do your PhD, you wanted to make sure that it was something that you truly wanted to do, that it was true for you, that you were doing it for yourself, and that you were making that decision from a place of incredible clarity and alignment with your values, and also what it is that you're wanting to create in your life for yourself.
More creativity, more opportunities build upon the knowledge that you already have and who knows what doors this is going to open for you. But the thing about decision making is that, everyone can feel when they are making a decision that is the right decision for them. We can just feel it when it's just yes.
It's, we all know that feeling of a sharp, clean, clear. Yes. And we all know that feeling of a foggy, muddy, uncertain, not so confident. Yes. And for you, your yes was a little bit muddy.
Yeah.
And it turned really clear. And it could have gone either way. There was points where we were working together where I was like, oh, there's no way she's gonna do that PhD.
Like I was like, there's no way.
And it was, and that's the magic of. Of this coaching journey is that yeah we don't know where it's gonna go. And
Nadi Miri: Exactly,
Lana Pribic: You landed in that place of clarity for yourself where you were like, no, this is something that I wanna do. And when you first reached out to me, you wanted to, you wanted guidance on narrowing down what is essential true to myself
and yeah, tell us a little bit about that. How has this experience and all the work that you've done helped you narrow down what is essential to yourself and true to yourself? And how are you using that to make decisions and to guide you? How do you know what's true and essential to yourself? Yeah.
Nadi Miri: Yeah. Narrowing down, I believe it comes down to saying no to so many things, so many options available. And part of it is just knowing ourselves, knowing the values, and being honest ourselves, honest and open, and revisiting whatever is giving me the energy and evaluating whatever is coming to my path. I need to look into that from the high level and look at it, say, okay, is this gonna serve my purpose or not? There's so many good things that we can do in this life. And it's easy to get distracted. So narrowing down gives us focus. And it's all about setting up the boundaries and saying, no. I was going through my journal as I was getting ready for this session, and I realized the key words that I've used in my journal is saying no, setting up the boundaries and take on less do less and go deeper
Lana Pribic: Oh, you don't know how good it is to hear you say
Yeah,
Wow.
Yeah. Work in progress. But at least
I in my mind, you know? yeah. Yeah.
It
But
You've made massive progress with boundaries
I know.
and saying no became your favorite word some point. I know that a lot of people listening really struggle with that just the same way that you once did. What was it that shifted for you internally, energetically that allowed you to actually start saying no and setting boundaries without guilt?
Nadi Miri: Oh yeah. The guilt part is the difficult part because by saying no, we are just closing the doors to so many other things, to people, to opportunities, to unknown path. And as I said, I was at the point that I was overwhelmed and carrying too many plates in my hand and. And I was about to drop them all at once and break them all. I realized I need to offload some of those weight that I'm taking in, create a space for myself and making that boundaries very tight and to see what will happen. To see what saying the first, no, how does it feel? Maybe the first one was with guilt and doubt and questioning. Oh, maybe I, I could have said yes, what will happen?
And I was reviewing whatever has happened for me in my career, in my relationship with people. And I realized that I, this is for me to respect my own space, my own time, my own energy, and I need to look inward and open up some time for myself by saying No. And reviewing what is most available and valuable for me and tap into that. And guilt and shame, oh my God, is just came so many times in different situations, in different sessions. And I remember we spent a good time on when we were doing the ELI assessment, we realized where our starting point is. I realized I have the tendency to helping people. And for me it was always a value.
Like I guess it's most of the culture is helping people is a value, and being at service is also something that everybody's appreciated and everybody is talking about it. But there is, I found there is a fine line to find. The boundaries between being at service being selfless and being selfish.
Where is that line going to be? And I had this tendency to overextend my help to friends, to people that I work with. And at some point I forgot about what is most important for me at that time, although I was doing a good action, a positive action that everyone in the world is agree on, okay, helping people is a good thing, but I was not at service to myself. So at some point, it's good to put ourselves first and see what are our needs going to be at that point, and how far can I extend it? What is my capacity? And yeah, so working around that and learning just saying no without guilt and shame. It's, it is a progress and it doesn't happen without evaluating what our value systems are and what the important decision at that moment is going to be.
Lana Pribic: I'm really curious about how this inner shift for you learning to say no, setting boundaries, seeing that actually there could be some value in this, and that there is a fine line between service and selfishness service to others and service to oneself.
Let's say I'm curious, what changed for you as a leader at work? 'cause you run your own firm, you're responsible for many people. People look up to you for guidance. You're a crucial and key energy at your firm. You really set the tone. Like most leaders, like all leaders for the firm, the people, the way work is done, the way that projects are completed, the end results of the project.
So what changed within you as a leader when you shifted your energy and you started releasing some of that guilt and you started saying no, and you started empowering others to do the thing rather than doing it for them.
Yeah. What changed in your leadership?
Nadi Miri: So for me it was exactly first choosing the right people to work with at work. If I choose the right person with the right skills, then I've done half of my work. And then for me is how much guidance I'm gonna give them. And as you mentioned, empowering them, choosing the right people, empowering them, and trusting them. And giving them enough space to be also creative and to also show up at their best. And for me as a leader as business owner is to overseeing their work, delegating the work to them, and overseeing their work, and insert my guidance like when it's necessary and at the same time I'm reviewing their progress, I can also give my feedback to them. So for me it's also another skillset to learn, to delegate, to learn, choose the right people to work with and make sure they have enough guidance and let them show up at their best. And it's also create a very productive work environment for
sure.
Lana Pribic: And all of that sounds great, right? Trusting. The people that you work with, giving them space to show up to be their best, giving them space for their own creativity to flourish. So all of that sounds great, but what was the inner shift that you had to create for yourself in order to be someone who can trust others and not need to micromanage and not feel like she had to do it all?
All the time. What was that shift? What changed in the way that maybe you viewed yourself, you viewed others, you viewed boundaries that allowed you to make that jump?
Nadi Miri: For me it was trying to go to the state of flow, flow in decision making and coming from a controlling and judging and being in a victim mode and trying to move forward, going in a higher level and, trusting myself and my ability to provide enough feedback and guidance for people and choosing the right people for me.
So basically everything starts from self and me trusting myself and also allowing people to be at their best. So for me, that shift started from, and letting go of that control is also a very great decision. It allows lots of flow and lightness and creates space for
creativity.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Yeah. What helped you start letting go of some of that control?
Nadi Miri: Definitely the process we went through, we reviewed all those energy level. And level one and being in the victim zone and judgmental zone and seeing what is possible and available level five, level six, level seven, to love the entire, universe. And when we know there are more options available rather than what I have con framed myself, I can, there are other options.
I can move beyond that. And for me, having a higher goal allowed me to go through that shift, I believe.
Lana Pribic: Yeah, so what you're saying is that expanding your awareness and your. Possibilities of
Yeah.
the ways that it's possible for you to show up and for you to use your own energy, it played a big role in actually helping you expand into that and expand beyond that victim, beyond the control, beyond the judgment, into a more non-judgmental, trusting, open, loving powerful place, right?
absolutely.
And what a different leader you must be when you're a catabolic leader versus an anabolic. Later, right?
Nadi Miri: Yeah. I guess as a leader when you're around people, they definitely work with your energy as well. When they see me like stressed out and burned out and tired and not satisfied with the end result it'll definitely reflect to their work too, rather than just trying to see someone who can trust others. Not to be micromanaging and be on a very open and light state of mind definitely will shift
everyone around me and it'll reflect their, into their energy as well.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. And how much of that do you think was you walking that line between service and. And selfishness. How did being in service to yourself first and bringing some of that service energy inward rather than just bringing it outwards?
Because caretaking, being in service, that energy, a lot of us have no problem with bringing that outwards towards other people, but we really struggle with bringing it inwards towards ourself. How much did being in service to yourself impact your leadership and how you showed up for your team?
Nadi Miri: Oh yeah. I remember we talked about health and wellness.
And sleep for me was the biggest issue. I've been challenging with just sleeping and at some point back to the guilt. For me, I feel. Sense of guilt when I allow myself to rest. And as much as we know that taking rest is as necessary as important of doing, getting the job done. So yeah, we worked on sleeping, which is like very crucial on health. And I remember you gave me like fantastic tips from suggesting supplements to how to put like a red filter in my phone and like from simple adds onto the life and also shifting my mindset that is okay to rest.
It's okay to sleep and we need that. So health and taking care of stuff was coming up at the very early sessions with us. And that's, that was super important. I'm still working on it like, just taking rest for me is not the easiest thing to do. I remember you suggested to have one day with no plan and no agenda, and I was like shocked.
Like, how can I do that? Or just leaving home
Have you done that yet?
half a day, maybe
Okay, we'll
one full day. Yeah. But it's, it is a progress. I'm proud.
Lana Pribic: And how was that day for you to do nothing and to have no plan and to just
I
Nadi Miri: remember yeah, after that session, I canceled everything that I had planned for that day
and yeah. And it was a nice fall day. I left home and I went for a walk with no plan and did some window shopping. And I remember I tried different hats and sunglasses without even thinking that I need to buy or anything, just working on guilt and shame and working, and I don't need to do things just.
S to be productive or like taking your rest is also part of being productive.
And that was a fun day and ended with espresso martini and yeah, you're,
You're able to take some more of those days
for yourself or afternoons or evenings. Yeah.
Yeah,
Lana Pribic: So we talked a lot obviously about like leadership and work, and then we also talked about health and wellness. Another area that I remember us diving into was money and
finances.
And that was all tied to visibility and self-worth.
Can you talk to us a little bit about that and what that journey with money has been for you?
Nadi Miri: I remember this topic came on towards the very end sessions and.
There is,
of those.
there was an earlier one too that we talked about money and then we
yes. We looped back. That's correct. Yes. Yeah, it was maybe unconsciously trying to avoid it. Some part of it is maybe because of the upbringing, the thinking money is equal to be materialistic and to being needy and greedy and we should do things just part of being a service and for, without thinking about the money.
And as a business owner having that challenge and thinking about money as something that is gonna ha has some morality attached to it. It's not easy. And I remember we discussed that you suggested to look at money as a neutral topic. It's not good or it's not bad, it's
A neutral energy.
natural energy is
just an exchange and it's not about worthiness. That was a fantastic topic. You spend good amount of time on it. You suggested some books to read and I also was very self-reflective to see where is that coming from, where was the start point of that, to think about money as like, bad as uh, something that um, is not good. But that one really helped me when I'm writing a new contract, , doing some negotiation at the business, trying to see what kind of a value I bring to the table, to that project and the value that I'm bringing. Money is an exchange of that, and
that will help a lot to filter some of those noises around the work, some of unwanted
Projects that if my value is not gonna be made or is not needed for this project, then I'm gonna filter this project, or the client is gonna filter me. And it's, that's absolutely fine. It'll allow, it'll open up my calendar for better projects for people who are aligned with my mindset, who are looking for what I can bring to their projects. Just doing faster and cheaper is not beneficial. To me and to the work and to the practice. So yeah, going through the money was very challenging.
Very deep and reflective
topic that we worked on.
Lana Pribic: Yep. There was a lot of family stories, cultural stories that had entangle to really start viewing money from a very neutral, not charged perspective.
Correct. Yeah.
And
kind of
connected to that is you allowing yourself to be seen and celebrated and allowing yourself to be acknowledged whether through money or through praise or whatever it is.
For the work that you do and for your success, can you tell us a little bit about, how you went from hiding or being shy about your success in your work and maybe how you feel about yourself as. Woman, a professional today.
Nadi Miri: Yeah,
Yeah. Exactly. At some point I learned, or I taught myself that to get hired under the work and just get the work done and hoping that I will be recognized and someone will find me and can just see what a fantastic architect I am. But part of the work is ourselves to show up and allow ourself to be seen and to be heard especially for architectural practice is it has this physicality. A it that needs to be seen and that needs to be talked about. And I need to teach it to people that thought process that has gone through it, and I was so shy to talk about it. I was waiting someone to come and find me and introduce me to the world.
But where we live and the words that we need, we are in it. Now. It's my job to introduce myself to the world with the pride, if I can celebrate my projects, my work, and the value I bring to the work, it can also be seen and people can also notice me and being visible is, it's a challenging work for me just to put myself out there when, especially when you're running a business, you are part of the brand and just the shame and hiding behind the work is not gonna help to,
Expand the work and access those projects and clients that I'm really looking for. So we worked on that to allow myself to be seen, to be heard and be celebrated.
Lana Pribic: Mm-hmm.
Uh How does that show up for you in your life? How do you allow yourself to receive that praise, that acknowledgement, the celebration, and what does that feel like for you
Nadi Miri: um. Um,
I guess everything starts from self, obviously, when I accept myself as someone who has something to say if I'm proud of and certain about the quality of the work that I'm offering, it's much easier to convince others and it'll happen automatically.
So for me, it started from looking inwards and looking at the values that I bring to the table, to the project, accepting it myself, first celebration, starting celebrating inside, and then it'll automatically, I can talk about my work, but without feeling that I'm too much. So when it's happening naturally and intuitively, it's very. You'll see the flow and people also would notice it. And to me the best part was just being in the state of flow and being in lightness and being comfortable in my own skin.
Lana Pribic: Ah, yes. Yeah. So once you started relating to yourself and seeing yourself differently, it actually allowed you to accept that other people saw you in that way as well.
Yeah.
Because, yeah, you keep referring to it as your mindset and having
like
a mindset shift, but I just wanna be really technical. What we're actually talking about is much deeper than your mindset. It's your belief system, right?
It's what you believe to be true about yourself and about life and how when we shift at a foundational level, what we believe to be true and possible for ourselves and in this life, then that's actually when those outer shifts that we are desiring can happen. Is that, do you agree with that? Is that something that you've, you have seen to be true in your own process?
Nadi Miri: Absolutely. Yes, exactly. That's, yeah, I use the word mindset, but definitely accessing my belief system and reevaluating them. No matter what our upbringing was we are in the world that we have access so much knowledge and able to relearn teaching ourselves again.
And no matter what was the start point, we can definitely teach ourselves new bleeding system and evaluating whatever was the start point.
Lana Pribic: Yeah. Yeah. Your current circumstances don't determine where you're gonna go, right? They only determine where you start. I probably butchered that quote, but.
Well said. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. What else stands out to you in terms of those energetic shifts that we were able to create during our time together?
Nadi Miri: Yeah, for me the entire process was um, very, very interesting. Just to allow myself to go deep without , getting judged. I was judging myself, but I never felt that I've been judged with all the topics that I brought up,, and you worked like a perfect mirror to show my blinder spots to me. And I remember when our sessions were towards the end, I realized I managed to do like a deep house cleaning. Imagine having a room with having a house with lots of rooms that you never, you just throw stuff in it and it's so messy that you never want to go back and check what's inside. And they look scary, but.
always takes some space in your mind. And for me it was those sessions allow me to go to those rooms, open up and see what's inside, what I have shoveled in for years and never looked back and try to start cleaning them up. And it was such a fantastic feeling that I cleaned up so many mess accumulated over the years and some of them are still there, but at least I know they are there and I have time to go back and visit them and address them.
But it was a good, like body scan, what we went through, it was scanning whatever is my belief system, the repeating patterns and trying to understand why certainties happens over and over, and. Receiving some tools to go through those cleanup, those deep house cleaning.
Lana Pribic: yeah, that's such a good way to, to put it. I remember you were talking about
like,
I feel like I have all these open boxes in my house and I'm finally getting to them,
you know? Uh,
Um,
them out and putting things away and organizing
things. And this is all your internal house, your internal landscape,
Nadi Miri: yeah,
Lana Pribic: Honestly, many of us don't spend that much time in.
We just take it for what it is and we're like, okay this is my thought and it is the way that it is. And we don't even know what our belief systems are or know that our beliefs are simply beliefs and not truth, and that we can just choose to believe something else.
Absolutely. Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It really is that simple.
At the end of the day Nadi, what have you been learning about how much power you actually have and how much choice you actually have?
Oh yeah. So actually I, by learning to, no, I basically was choosing to say no and choosing it from like a certainty being certain that I can choose to say no guilt free. It's empowering. It's really empowering to know what you want, what is good for you, and also receiving the more respect from people that work with you.
And you set the boundaries and people learn to respect it. This is your boundaries. If you are not crossing, no one can cross it over. And it's really empowering, really. I like to use the word joy and light and happy and power for me, like being a person with like autonomy was one of my values and something that, oh, I want to be in control of my decisions and all of that.
But sometimes I was so composite to say yes, and it's not freedom when we are making a decision out of compulsion. It's the opposite side of the freedom and autonomy. And autonomy is just to , making good choices from the high level of energy.
Yeah. Making good choices from that clear focused state. Yeah.
Yeah.
Amazing. Amazing. And what have you been learning about creativity, the creative process, you as a creative human and bringing that into not just your work, but your life.
Nadi Miri: Yeah, everything started from opening the space. Then my time is always schedule for so many things. At some point I get to that trap of getting things done over and over. And that's the enemy of creativity, like being creative. And when I allow myself to do nothing and rest and open up my calendar for some free time, definitely I started getting ideas for work and.
Just how to interact with people and so basically by taking on less allowed me to open up that creative campaign. Yeah.
Lana Pribic: Yeah, beautifully said, and I think you're touching on something that a lot of people who talk about creativity and the creative process talk about a lot, which is giving yourself the space
Yeah.
to basically do nothing because creativity. It comes when we're not trying
Yeah.
and ideas and inspiration come to us magically, randomly.
Like, like, yes, we can have creative workshops and there's tools that we can use to like really enhance creativity in the creative process. But what you're talking about here, giving yourself the space is so important for someone like you who, relies on creativity as a profession, but all of us rely on creativity creativity is simply solving problems, looking at things from a different perspective, in every moment we can bring our creativity to the table and getting to a point where you actually allow yourself to have that space.
To rest, to do nothing and not feel guilty for it. And in fact, know that this is a key part of your process and that it's just as important as everything else. That's a massive transformation in the way that you view life and the way that you view specifically time and how to spend time and efficient use of time.
So I really wanna highlight that for people listening. 'cause everything that you just said, like it sounds simple and we've all heard it before, but I really wanna highlight the inner work that it actually takes to be someone who lives a creative life.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Nadi Miri: And simple is not easy. Simple looks easy, but
there is a work symbol. Yeah.
There been a process to come up with a simple clean plate and it really needs that inner work and trying to get rid of, the noises and whatever is not necessary,
and just putting the right amount of whatever in our life.
And that's simple and easy and that's the key.
Lana Pribic: Yeah,
totally. And can you let people know what are some practices, habits, tools, routines that you've developed or that have stayed with you? Since our time together and since you started approaching life from more energetic perspective?
Nadi Miri: Yeah, definitely taking care of my health and sleep was fundamental and what I trying to work on is, allowing time for meditation in the morning and in the afternoon. And that's part of being still and just observing whatever is coming to our minds and let them come and go and just be the observer rather than judging them.
So that's a very good tool and practice that I try to implement in my life. Breath work has been great tools in my life. I've been joining different breath work sessions and another one will start this Monday morning for three weeks. That's very helpful. All the breathing techniques is very helpful for me to release all the stress and anxiety that I have and also create that stillness. And also being part of the community of like-minded people. Having people that I can reach out to besides work and, clients and people that we can discuss open freely and openly about are trying to access those those tools that are within us.
But we forgot to tap into them.
Lana Pribic: . What would you say to people like yourself, or maybe people like you a year ago, right?
High achieving, purpose driven, passionate but they feel stuck, misaligned, drained even though maybe their life looks successful on the outside. What would you say to those people?
Nadi Miri: Yeah, I remember my friends were telling me that, oh, seems that you've got a lot and you've gone so far. What's wrong with you? Why you're not happy? And it was me year ago and I was to that point of my life that I felt that I'm about to drop off whatever. I've been carrying so many years and maybe we don't need to take to that point to reach out to someone to help us.
Maybe I could have done it two years ago and reach out to a coach to walk the way with me to show my blindness spots to reflect what's inside of me and to help me to go. To do that inner work. And it's not easy. The inner work is not easy. And we definitely need to ask for help and we cannot do it all on our own. So yeah, whoever is feeling stuck feeling on a crossroad without getting to that crisis point, we can reach out to people to help us and let this path to be easier and smoother with more joy. And doesn't need to be difficult. Life doesn't need to be
difficult. It could be easy, it could be simple.
With all the goals that we have, with all the desires that we wish to achieve, we can approach it like easier and lighter with less struggle.
Lana Pribic: That's a beautiful message of hope because yeah, a simpler. More truthful, more aligned. Life is definitely available and possible for anyone out there who's willing to put in a little bit of work to get to know themselves and then to take the actions necessary to align the outside with their truth inside and within.
And you were such a great student in terms of like, I feel like you like really studied the levels of energy and really applied everything and you did your homework and the assignments and all the action steps that we put together for you at the end of each session. And you know, a lot of my clients are like that. And I think when you hire a coach, you're probably at that point where you're like, Hey, I'm making the investment, I'm gonna it right. Can you share with people how embracing, and understanding energy and consciousness more deeply impacts you on a day-to-day basis, especially when you're facing challenges.
It.
Nadi Miri: Yeah, exactly. After each session we had some homeworks to do and going through those questionnaires and all of that, and that was enforcing whatever we. Discussed in our one hour sessions. Basically going through those homeworks and putting time aside to think and the answers, it'll help me to look at those values and energy levels and those decision makings differently and trying to find, which part of it can I implement into my life, which part of it I already have it, and how far can I go and what are the possibilities? That definitely helped me to go through that journey and trying to embedding those energy levels in my day to day life.
And now every time I get to that point of victim or judgmental or feeling worthiness, all of that. I will try to go back and look at whatever I learned and see, okay, how can I shift my energy and how can I shift my perspective from those low level of energies to higher level of energy?
Lana Pribic: It sounds like you've almost learned to be your own energy coach.
Yeah. I'm trying. Yes.
And how has embracing high consciousness, anabolic energy changed the way that you live on a day-to-day basis,
Nadi Miri: for sure it does. And it's just, it is not getting triggered by simple things, , it helps me to be more solid, more grounded, more mindfulness, and, that's part of being in a higher level of consciousness, just to be aware of what's happening inside me and what's happening around the world and knowing my abilities and my limit. What can I do and what are my choices around whatever is happening around me? So definitely helping me every single day.
Lana Pribic: It sounds like you're much more aware, have much more autonomy, and you're a reflective person who takes everything that comes her way as an opportunity to reflect, to learn more about yourself and to. Embed your values and your desires into everything. It's
Working on it. Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, it's a never ending journey and I'm just happy to have been a small part of your journey.
Nadi Miri: It's been amazing journey and no one better than you could walk me through this
path. I should say something to be honest with you. Like at the beginning I, I was thinking that because of the cultural gap and the age gap, I'm much older than you, so I'm not sure, but listening to all of your podcasts and seeing that you are a person who are so open and transparent about your growth and that healing journey that you're taking and sharing that with everyone around the world. Working with someone who is so open and courageous to share her life with people, age and cultural differences, at the end we are all human beings and we have the same, core values and we are looking for those human connections and that's the most important thing. And so no one better than you could help me through this path.
Lana Pribic: Oh, I'm touched honored. Thank you so much for sharing that. Thank you. And it's totally understandable to look at someone younger than you and think you know just to question the level of experience and wisdom that they might have. And I'm glad that you leaned into your intuition and your heart rather than the logic.
That you leaned into this decision and Yeah, it's true. Like I've coached people in their sixties which is amazing and always such an honor and honestly so inspiring and yeah, you're right. It's all about energy, right?
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah. Nadi, what are you most proud of about who you're becoming and who you are today?
Nadi Miri: For me, I'm proud of being able to shift from a confused and overwhelmed and burned out person over the year. And now I'm carrying the same responsibilities but I'm approaching the life much easier, much lighter with joy, and I'm proud of myself to bring joy to my life, introduce it back to my life, and I hope I can reflect it to everyone around me and to my projects.
Oh, you definitely do.
Thank you very much.
Lana Pribic: you can't, right? You're always reflecting whatever it is that you are. And so it's just natural that you're gonna reflect that joy and
yeah,
All those things back. Yeah. Before we wrap up, is there anything else you wanna share with people listening about.
Anything at all about your journey and what you've been learning or any significant shifts that you feel like you wanna share about?
I
Nadi Miri: just this is ongoing work and as we are evolving, the possibilities are also endless. And just learning how to tapping into our, creative side, our intuition, that's the key. And sometimes we need help to just open up whatever we did not allow ourself to look into that and give ourself permission to seek help. And that's the key to approach the life much easier and happier.
Lana Pribic: accepting help? Yeah.
help. Yes. Being on the other side. Yeah.
Exactly.
Yes. And getting over all your own bullshit that's telling that, you have to do it all. You have do all yourself. Yeah.
Yeah. Amazing. So, uh, you are in school, you're doing your PhD and that's gonna be a year or two, three years. Three years.
Amazing. that's gonna be keeping you busy. You still obviously have your firm and projects that you're working on. What do you wanna share with people about what's next for you, what you're working on?
Nadi Miri: Yeah, actually my school thesis is about looking at , i'm running a small practice of architecture and I always looked at architecture as I wanted to create meaningful and purposeful buildings. And purposeful buildings and architecture is to be honest to people that we are helping them to think about generations of people who are going to come live, work and place in those spaces.
Being truthful to the land, to the environment. And that's something I like to focus my work towards that. And my thesis is gonna be around that. As a small practice of architecture, how we can bring all of those values to the projects and creating long lasting, meaningful, purposeful projects for everyone who's gonna use those spaces.
That's my goal.
Beautiful. Beautiful. Please continue to check in and send me updates 'cause I'd love to hear from you. And thank you so much for coming on today and sharing. I think that your testimony here really highlights that.
It's all about just continuing to stay on the path. And the perspective shift that I think a lot of people listening might be able to benefit from, which I think that you embody so beautifully, is that it's about continuing to take those next steps that feel right for you, and knowing that it's a process, it unfolds.
And there's not really an end goal. There's only forward progress, and there's backward progress and there's no progress at all. And it's up to you where you wanna be, right? But if you're someone who wants to continue making progress, continue moving forward, working with a coach, doing a psychedelic journey.
Finding practices that work for you. Those are all great and they're gonna support you. But at the end of the day, like you said many times today, it all starts with you. It all starts within you. Hopefully people listening, folks listening are looking for tools and support systems that are a reminder that it does really all start with you and that everything is within you.
And you embody that beautifully. So thank you.
Thank you. Thanks for having me today. And looking forward to listening to more of your podcast and connecting to you in the very near future.
Sending you a big hug and so much love and best of luck with your PhD and keep enjoying it and learning and growing.
Thank you very much.
